[access-uk] Re: audio descriptions

  • From: "Spring.flower" <spring.flower@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:13:07 +0100

ITV A D a lot of their own productions and the BBC do too but a lot of the stuff on Sky doesn't seem to get done. I don't think channel 5 does too bad. 


Trace
----- Original Message ----- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: audio descriptions



And to anser the charge that blind people should pay the full licence fee.
I would gladly do so, but at the moment, I feel, while the reduced fee is
there, I will pay that, as I get a reduced service from the AD. It should, 
for instance, be mandatory for new series to come with AD, and for repeats
to be audio described. That would extend a lot of television to blind users 
I think.


Hope to hear from you soon.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Spring.flower
Sent: 11 August 2008 20:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: audio descriptions
The person doing the a D often gets characters names wrong and that's pretty 
basic stuff, they should be able to get those right.

I've even witnessed old A D being used which wouldn't fit at all with the
episode on that day, it talked all over the wrong parts of the programme and 
alsorts of awful stuff!!

There was a series on itv a while back, can't remember the name of it but
one of the main characters was a blonde female and I swear, every time the
Audio describer spoke it was to mention the womans hair!!
I know it couldn'[t be done fut i for one, would like if they could describe 
the clothes of the characters more, it'll never happen and so that's
something I'll always miss out on.

Trace

----- Original Message -----
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: audio descriptions



2I can agree whole heartedly with the centiment that nothing is a
substitute
for visual info.  Audio description goes a fair way to describing what's
on
the screen, but I've come across some horrendous omitions in AD on movies
and such, would it not be fair to say these sometimes crop up in TV too?
AD
is great, but it needs to be more widespread. It should be a given rather 
than a luxury.  At the moment, I feel it is viewed by the broadcasters as
a
bit of a luxury. Approximtely how much subtitling is done for television? 
Thanks.

And as for eight percent of the licence fee?  Yes, I'd go with that idea
as
audio described programming is running at about that level.  Thanks.
Hope to hear from you soon.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Barry Hill
Sent: 11 August 2008 18:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: audio descriptions

We need Sky or to buy a special freeview box to get AD whereas a sighted
person can watch BBC channels with a terestrial aerial.
[In 2005, the broadcasting watchdog Ofcom stipulated that 76 channels must 
carry AD. Current regulations state that all BBC channels must audio
describe at least 8% of their programmes per week, the rest of the
channels
mentioned have slightly lower targets, but all are raised by Ofcom every 2 
years.].
So, should we pay 8% of the licence fee, raising by 2% each year?

There's no way that audio description can come close to describing the
special effects that are produced on TV these days.  For instance, I am
told
that Doctor Who has favulous computer generated effects.

So, where's the equality there?

Barry


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: audio descriptions


I disagree.  Nothing is a substitute for visual information and that is
from
someone who has never seen.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] audio descriptions



Peter wrote
"We are not equal, we can't see the pictures."

But audio descriptions gives access to visual information.

A sighted  deaf viewer is not able to hear, so is offered subtitles,
but still pays same fee as the hearing/sighted viewers.
Sighted deaf  have  a good fair argument to have  100% subtitles,
they can say  "We pay,  so we should have it"
Blind people seem to be  saying:
"we want  audio  descriptions, but we are not  prepared to pay for it"

Fair enough,  so  why  should  the rest of the TV viewers subsidise the
blind?

Regards,  Derek


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