Steve, I trust I'm not being included in the Backstabbing allogation? I'm posting to a public list and the fact is that 2 years back I'd terrible trouble as did others getting onto VIGEN. In any case, folks Steve has kindly provided his email address so if you have issues with VIGEN that the moderators arent' addressing to your satisfaction he's obviously willing to help out. Having known Steve on and off for several years now I know if you contact Steve directly he will do his best for you. Now lets get back to this lists purpose and if you've got them.... Smoke them! <smiles> Regards, Barry. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Hyde-Dryden Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:39 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people hotels Not that I am sure what this is to do with the subject heading of AFBP Hotels, but I will take this opportunity to explain the situation on VI-Gen, Unfortunately, due to heavy work commitments, I am unable to manage the list myself and as such have a moderator who looks after the day to day running of the list. Now, if for some reason that is not effectively being done then I need to be informed. Not however round the garden via different lists, directly to my email address. I take offense to the back handed stabbing which appears to be going on at present. I have already removed or, will be removing one person from that list for inappropriate behaviour. For future reference, my email is csdryden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Please direct any comments there and not by wasting list bandwidth! Kind regards. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people hotels > In what way Ian? > > Are the guys over there still not approving subscription requests in a > decent time? > > If so perhaps it's time to create an alternative list to it? I have had > in > the past, (around 2 years ago), a terrible time getting a hold of the > moderators to get onto the list myself. I would have hoped after the > complaining I did to Steve Dryden that would have been sorted long before > now. > Barry. > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Iain Lackie > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:12 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people hotels > > I would very much like to create a thread on VI Gen but it seems it is a > list which it is impossible to join. > > Iain > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:38 PM > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people hotels > >> >> Hi William, and all, >> >> This is off topic I'm afraid for this list. >> >> Please re-direct all replys to William off list and/or you may want to >> create a thread on VI Gen. >> >> Shout if you need subscription details. >> >> Cheers, >> Barry. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> william lomas >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:19 AM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: uk-guide-dogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] action for blind people hotels >> >> Hi all >> >> >> Maybe I am off topic, has anyone ever been to the windermere or other >> hoteles for the blind from action for blind people? >> 1. what activities are there? >> 2. which is the best hotel out of the 4? >> 3. 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