I just want to say that in the past I have had excllent indeed sperb help from Action for Blind People.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Dryden" <steve.dryden@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
Yes, I've got to agree Terry. I'd like to make a couple of valid points here though. Firstly Wil, I'm sorry you seem to be having little successwith your association with AFBP. I'm really not sure what you're Advisor isdoing but I am sure that he, or she, is doing considerably more behind the scenes. As an employee of Action For Blind People co-ordinating my own discipline, I work closely with the Employment Co-ordinater and can assureyou that the work they do is both complex and comprehensive. They do have agood success rate in many cases. But, I can assure you that there is considerably more to it than browsing the internet every day. I do have to disagree though that one of the best solutions for a blindperson is to go into self employment. I'll agree that in some cases, it canbe beneficial and very rewarding but it really is hard work. It is certainly not 9 to 5 and to be successful, you must put in 200% all thetime. I can speak from experience from both sides. I would firstly adviseyou to talk to your adviser and tell them that you are unhappy and that you'd like to know if they can suggest anything else. But, avoid selfemployment unless you are certain that it is what you want to do. You musthave a very serious think about this and also thoroughly research the type of work you want to do. As has already been mentioned, there are a numberof successful self employed people on this list who I'm sure will echo whatI've said. Best regards. Steve----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Clasper" <terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officersSad to see a great list being dragged down to this level.! -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:35 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers if you have a problem with a list ember tell her off list. she has a right to be "boring" like the rest of us if you that pissed off heard of a delete key? i guess not On 31 Jul 2009, at 11:32, Scott C wrote:Also your endless emails are bloody boring and do my head in. -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Cairns - Email Address: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 31/07/2009 11:12Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers Hi Eleanor I mean this with the utmost respect, but you should take your disagreements and grievances off public lists such as this and deal directly with the appropriate person/department. As you are, or were, studying law, I do not need to remind you that publicising your feelings in this way on a public forum is dangerous, and has legal implications. I really urge you to refrain from sending Emails to any public lists airing your views in this way. I am not a moderator, nor claim to do their job, but feel you are entering dangerous waters with some of your comments or when reproducing information that was sent to you privately. No offence whatsoever intended, just a personal plea that you need to be careful! Jackie Cairns Braille Specialist Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sight and Sound Technology Ltd Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD Tel: 01604 798024 Mob: 07887 883815 www.sightandsound.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 30 July 2009 07:08 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers I an very interested in this discussion on difficulty with access to employment for disabled people. As a disabled student at the Open University people might be interested to know that I was suspended from the university on 17 July 2009 amd effectively thrown out. Did I get a Hearing? Certainly not! I got a letter throwing me out. I also got a letter from the Regional Director of the Open University in London who gave me a final warning amd cut off my access to communication with Open University law students. Where was the prior warnings? There were none. This person is going through my file with the aim of dicipling me. All of this flies in the face of natural justice. My offences are as follows: I want to know the number of students who have sat 50 per cent of the third level law course W 300 since its inception 9 years ago. I want to know why Special Arrangements were not made for me as a disabled student in the last course I did in 2008 which I failed despite having done very well throughout the assessments over the year. I an firmly of the opinion that the university threw me out because they wanted to silence me on the issue of 50 per cent re-sit of an examination. I discovered that students had been allowed to do this which was hush hush. I an not now going to be able to sit an exam amd pass it this year as I an currently out amd the way the Open University works is that assignments have to be put in every month. My next one is due on 12 August but I will still be out! I have Appealed to the Senate of the University for lifting of my suspension. Meeting not until 1 September. There are going to be 2 students on the panel. I wrote today saying that one of these students should be blind, female amd the same age as myself. What do others feel? In terms of information technology I communicate with fellow students over the university website but they have stopped me being able to do this. I have been unregistered amd isolated. I an a disabled student amd thrown out amd not one staff member within the university has given me an opportunity to speak. So from 17 July until 1 September I an being punished without a hearing amd my chance of doing amd passing my course this year are gone. I managed to obtain my course material electronically but only after much ado amd a written apology from the university. Someone wrote to the university on my behalf about the course material in alternative format. This was before I managed to get the material in alt ernative format. The university wrote back to this Professor telling him that 2 senior members of the law faculty visited me in my home! I had to get the Open University to write back to the Professor to say the information that 2 staff members visited me in my home was not true. A total case of discrimination. I can assure everyone that I have not had gross misconduct which I have been temporarily if not permanently removed for from the university. There is no guarantee that my suspension will be lifted. -original message- Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 30/07/2009 6:04 pm HIBarbra and all. I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews and also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work. Now let me relay aa few stories. I went on the new deal for disabled people. The DEA basically threw me at employers and said, the law says you cannot discriminate, so employ him. Most employers were enthusiastic until they actually had to do soemthing to help me over and above their usual, then they binned me, after about three days in one case. Then I went on another scheme that afbp told me was accessible to blind. Turned out they weren't, and that they were in it for the EU money. I went in dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of jaws on pendrive, for SATOGO and SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in hand. I was first asked, where's your carer, then when I told them I'd lived on my own for years, they dropped that question. I explained about jaws for windows, and about what it was. They wouldn't let me install it. In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer. They could not even make the course amterials in accessible format. About the only thing this place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a riding stable. Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually doing the work, and did they? No. They were meant to get in touch with my boss, but tdid they? No. I spent six mmonths doing my part of the thing, while they did nothing. This was another govt scheme btw, and at one point, they tried to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to allow me to connect to their intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied with the Dda because of this. Hmm, no. AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it. And yes, this was new labour. I am going for an nvq this september, and I wonder if AFBP will help me if I get into trouble with access? 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