Hi Billy Well if you are struggling with your iPhone, it doesn't seem sensible to suggest an iPod Touch, though I must confess you end up accepting iTunes whether you like it or not! (smile). But what you say you require suggests something like a Victor Reader Stream, BookSense, Milestone or Plextalk Pocket. They all take SD cards with up to 32GB of storage, all have a USB cable which allows you to connect the device to your PC, and they all come up as drives in My Computer so you can copy and paste files into their respective designated folders. They all also support Audible. Of these four, to help you out a bit if I can, the Plextalk Pocket is probably the most sophisticated in terms of its creating of DAISY books, WiFi etc. It's a fantastic recorder, this is its strength. The rotten bits though are the voice, and those infuriating tones you can't turn off altogether! The BookSense carries the most versatile file formats when reading files with the Paul or Kate voices, and the XT model has Bluetooth and an FM radio. The Milestone is the smallest, but it has the fewest buttons, so you would need to learn to combine key presses when undertaking various tasks. The facility to add the Fame Colour Detector is great, and the speaker is by far the clearest of the lot. But I can't help feeling the Victor Reader Stream may be the easiest for you in terms of its very tactile and well defined buttons. It is chunkier than the others, but robust. We like them all for different reasons. It depends what you want to pay, but having identified the facilities you require on a machine, one of these might be the ticket. On the other hand, someone else here may suggest an alternative that may easily be suitable. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 20:48 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible mp3 players? Hi Jackie, Gosh, this is the problem. I have looked at so many mp3 players over the last week or so. I have been looking at the Ipod Touch, but as I said. All the Itunes stuff, puts me right off. I'm just barely putting up with my iPhone4 at the moment. I just want an mp3 player, that will play back different file formats, and it must also have an expansion slot for SD card. It also would be good if it could play audio books, and possibly have a usb connector as well, don't really want much ehh, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 August 2012 1:52 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible mp3 players? Hi Billy Are you looking for a mainstream player such as an Olympus, Apple, etc, or would you consider one of the specialist DAISY/MP3 players? I have written an extensive two-part article on the four main players which has appeared in the July and August issues of Access IT. Basically the piece pulls together the Milestone, BookSense, Victor Reader Stream, and the Plextalk Pocket, detailing their features, pros and cons, prices and dealers. It may give you some idea of what they can offer if you choose that particular route. Enjoy. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 12:45 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible mp3 players? Hello Jackie, this is the big problem with Apple for me. The fact, they will not let customers use third party software etc. I have the iPhone4, and not being able to upload my audio book library is nothing short of shocking. This is why I am weary about the ipods. I have Indeed heard some good reports about the Olympus players, and the Sansa clip + mp3 players. Anyway, thanks for as usual good sensable Information, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 22 August 2012 12:34 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible mp3 players? Hi Billy I agree completely that iTunes is really crap, least that's what I think personally, but you do sort of get used to it. I use it on the Mac, and while I have to ponder every keystroke before I perform a task, I kind of get there and can now make playlists. There are lots of podcasts out there on iTunes, no doubt, and how to get the most out of an iPod. Personally, the advice to have one is sound if it's music you want. You can do lots of other stuff with an iPod such as add applications like radio stations, giving you a massive music experience. Or you could purchase an Olympus that speaks many functions and filenames if you want something a bit more tactile. There are lots of models to choose from, and I am not up on what's best with speech these days as I don't use them. My friends tell me the DM5 is an excellent machine, so you might want to consider it if Apple really isn't your thing. Good luck. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Billy I Sent: 22 August 2012 11:31 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible mp3 players? hi Vince, yes, but the whole iTunes thing is so no good lol, Billy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vince Thacker Sent: 22 August 2012 10:33 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible mp3 players? Billy, you could try an ipod! 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