[access-uk] Re: accessibility of cash machines was Re: Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:28:55 +0100
didn't the banks once have a tactile layout for the keys and a description
of the menus in a kind of booklet? i remember something like this.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] accessibility of cash machines was Re: Re: Fw: Disabled
People and Chip and Pin
: Hi.
:
: Thinking about this one, it would be awkward at the moment.
:
: You would need to be using a cash point and holding your mobile as well.
: You would be a mugger's dream.
:
: This being said, I don't see why the banks could not have accessible
: documents on their websites containing step by step guides on how to use
: their own machines. That way if you knew which machine you would have to
: use you could download information about that machine either at home
before
: you set out or on your mobile while you are out. This could apply to much
: more than cash machines of course. it could work with fast ticket
machines
: and vending machines too.
:
: This is not of course perfect as not everyone has access to the web or wap
: pages and remembering long sequences of keys can be difficult but in the
: short term, accessible documents with information about key sequences
would
: be a start and a positive step forward.
: Graham Page
:
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: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:53 PM
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
:
:
: hi, if the speech could be incorporated into a mobile, then fine. but it
: would seem like a lot of fiddle and fuss (possibly even expense) just to
put
: in a 4 digit pin code to do your weekly shopping! smile. now if it could
be
: developed to cover other, currently inaccessible/awkward facilities, then
: i'm all for it. cash machines, those self service ticket machines on train
: stations, things like that, then it would be a real step forward!
: Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at:
: www.audyssey.org
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: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:50 PM
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
:
:
: > Hi Kevin,
: >
: > I agree with you regarding Chip and Pin, I much prefer it. However,
: speech
: > could come from any number of places. How 'bout your Talks-enabled
mobile
: > phone? Imagine having a Bluetooth transmitter on the terminal, which
sent
: > the information directly to your phone? Talks talking to you in an
: > earpiece? I don't know whether it is going to ever happen, but this
would
: > be by no means technologically impossible. And you always carry your
: phone
: > around. Forget special boxes, I think this would be the way to go.
: >
: > All the best
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: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
: Of
: > kevin and emma
: > Sent: 28 March 2006 15:00
: > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
: >
: > hi, and of course this little box will be free? ... not! not too mention
: > another thing to carry around with us. and what would happen if you lost
: > this box? or it developed a fault? or for some reason it wouldn't work
and
: > you had a queue of 20 people behind you? you'd have to ask the cashier
to
: > help which you can do already for free! in other words, you'd be back to
: > square one anyway, i really don't see why people have a problem with
: asking
: > for help when it's required!if anything it's easier with chip and pin.
no
: > problem with having to ask where the line is, double checking to make
sure
: > your in the right place, hoping that the pen works first time and that
: your
: > signatures readable etc etc.
: > it doesn't matter what technology is developed, or what improvement are
: made
: > to chip and pin, not everyone will agree with it. i for one aprove of it
: and
: > it's just a pity it took so long to come about. good riddance to the
pen!
: > smile.
: > Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at:
: > www.audyssey.org
: > contact me via email/msn:
: > kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:58 PM
: > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: Disabled People and Chip and Pin
: >
: >
: > > > what is the point of speech if it just says star?
: > >
: > > It tells you when to enter your pin, confirms that you have entered
the
: > > digits correctly, tells you if you when you an remove your card or if
: you
: > > have made a mistake etc.
: > >
: > > Anyway I remember reading something a while ago suggesting that in the
: > > future speech on units like this might come from some sort of speech
box
: > we
: > > carry with us, rather than from the units themselves, which would all
: use
: > a
: > > common standard to communicate with the speech box. we shall see...
: > >
: > > James
: > >
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