Hi Andy,
I do agree with you and others that some of the whittering by commentators and
'experts' can be annoying at times but some of the better commentators on 5
Live especially do give a decent description of what else is going on in the
stadia. I sometimes have to listen to Talksport coverage of some football
matches and I swear I often hear repeated comments of what happened some 30
seconds earlier with the exact same responses from their pundits and their
regular sponsor adverts drives me crazy, just like American sports coverage.
The BBC haven't got that bad yet!
Jim Williams.
www.JamesLWilliams.co.uk
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From: Andy (Redacted sender "meikle.aiden" for DMARC)
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 9:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Your thoughts re described TV rugby
Hi Yusif.
Why are we not talking about one in the same creature?
The BBC's 5 Live coverage of most sport events is excelent and better to none
, as you say and I think it's fair to say honestly, in the world.
Audio Description is similar but very different as you say.
But why should this be?
I'd really like to listen to the 5 live team commentary and if possible, also
supplemented by the audio description boys on my basic TV as though this was
normal.
Surely, it should only be a matter of moving the commentary team from the 5
Live studio, to the BBC 1 studio and adding a sprinkle of description if
nessessary!
There would of course need to be a box, asking if you needed this enhanced
commentary service .
If this was made available generally , then all of us would use it and why
not.
One day perhaps.
Well done England by the way. Listened to the game today.
Very best wishes.
Andy Logue.
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From: Yusuf Osman
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 4:55 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Your thoughts re described TV rugby
We're not really talking about described sport in the same way that A film
is audio described though are we? The radio commentary is fine for following
the game, but it isn't an audio described commentary. For example for years I
never understood how the football commentator could possibly know what colour
the socks were given the distance of the players from the box. But then I
didn't realise that the socks go up the leg quite a way. There are other things
that I'd like to know about the players which would turn the commentary in to a
audio described commentary rather than just a commentary.
Like others have said though there's far too much general chit chat on
5live commentaries and they sometimes forget at crucial points to actually
describe what is happening and start editorialising. Its particularly annoying
if your team has just scored and you want to know how the goal has scored. TMS
is still pretty good at keeping to description during the action though.
Yusuf
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: 02 February 2019 09:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Your thoughts re described TV rugby
Hi all.
For rugby fans like myself, I'm looking forward to a fabulus few weeks
entertainment.
Last nights Wales v Franse was a spectacular meeting.
I'm really looking forward to my own team, Scotland, v Italy at 2 pm, then
England and all the other games later this afternoon and evening.
However, although the Scotland v Italy game is being broadcast by BBC 1
Scotland, I'll be listening to what I would consider the best audio
description, in any sport and that is currently being provided by the 5 Live
team in England.
Obviously, there is a presumption that as my game is on TV and people can
see their TV's, there is no great desire to include the audio from the 5 Live
team on top. But why not?
To get around this problem, I've tuned into 5 life on my Iphone whilst the
games are being showen on BBC 1 Scotland, in my local pub, but there is of
course a 20 second delay So there is no seamless Time Code between these, so
it does not work.
I just feel that such a high quality descrittion service, as 5 Live
provide, on top of the TV image, would grately enhance my overall listening
enjoyment as a totally blind person.
Any thoughts?
There is also another problem and that is if I was listening to Scotland v
England at Twickenham on 5 Live, there must be reasonable bias, such as you
would get if Scotland were playing England in Murrayfield with scottish
presenters!
So I think it's perfectly resonable that I be able to listen to Scotland V
England with scottish or better, mixed presenters that to be honest, does
occure sometimes within the 5 live presentation.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this and regardless which team
you will be supporting during the 6 Nations, you have a really great
experience.
Very best wishes.
Andy Logue.
