[access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:28:46 +0100
Hi, if you want to use WL Mail with Jaws, I would highly recommend copying
and renaming the outlook Express scripts. In my view they work better with
WL Mail than the WL Mail ones. This is because the latter are based on the
Outlook scripts, don't allow you to save changes, and therefore don't
automatically read new messages. The Outlook Express scripts do allow you to
save your preferences for such things and therefore give you more
functionality than the existing WL Mail scripts. I have said before I think
the WL Mail scripts should be scrapped in favour of something based on
Outlook Express scripts.
Cheers
Dave
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From: "orhan deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:44 PM
To: <blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express
Evening folks,
Recently there have been some postings to various blind technology lists
about the Misconceptions about Windows Live mail. From what I understand,
Live mail will only effect those using hotmail. This is because, people on
Hotmail use the HTTP way of accessing E-mail. Microsoft, use a different
protocol for Hotmail users to access their e-mail. For this reason, they
have to switch to windows Live mail. Frankly, this was coming. New outlook
express users could not use hotmail anymore with out paying for it, and
Microsoft was slowly dropping the ball on outlook express. For those who use
hotmail, you could use something that would use a pop3 or imap server. This
includes but is not limited to, gmail and other free e-mail services.
Now, Let me try and clear out some misconceptions in the blindness
community.
Firstly, windows Live mail is navigable with jaws, and probably window-eyes.
You can certainly use it, there some focus issues but apart from that, it is
usable. Jaws9, does, indeed, have built-in scripts for WL mail. While not
perfect, they are functionable. a person can use most of the keystrokes to
accomplish what they need to in WLM mail. Composition of messages is pretty
straight forward, except for turning off the PC cursor.
oh, BTW, you don't have indication of weather a message is read or unread.
Now, my opinion.
Yes, windows Live mail is usable to a certain degree with jaws 9 and maybe
other screen readers, but I don't think it is perfect as well. I think we
should make the gradual move to it, and Notify screen reader vendors that
this will be a key program in the future. outlook express is not! and I
mean not!!! just gonna die now,and as you have seen, it only effects
hotmail users. Plus, there are alternatives, for those Hotmail users.
I would recommend that Hotmail users try out windows Live mail. Honestly,
it's not that bad. Now, if you don't have jaws9 or what ever, there is
alternative e-mail services, clients etc. Don't!, Don't,! be afraid to
try out new things.
For those people like me who don't use hotmail, but another e-mail service,
stick with outlook express, imho... because there are still bugs in Windows
Live Mail.
Kindest regards,
orhan.
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