I believe you can also purchase eloquence speech which is similar to that available with Window eyes and JAWS from Dolphin. While people may want both screenreaders on their PC for experimental purposes, maybe having one in demo form, it would be expensive to have supernova just doing magnification and Window-eyes for speech. The general consensus, and not everyone agrees by any stretch, seems to be that Supernova is not quite as good, particularly on the internet, as JAWS or Window-eyes for speech but the magnification facilities are some of the best available. Even if you take this view, the screenreading facilities of supernova ought to be ample for someone with some vision. Occasionally I come across people who insist on using a screen magnifier with 15 or 20 times magnification. It is always tempting to do this though generally it is none productive as there is too little text on the screen and a hell of a lot of scrolling is required. Ideally the user should rely wholely on speech when such large amounts of magnification are required though this is easier said than done, particularly when the user is a home user and does not have access to the required training. Regards Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "john snowling" <johnsnowling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Window-Eyes and Supernova Hi. Has your friend tried the two human like voices within supernova Carol and Alan. I use supernova speech and magnification in an emergency. I find Supernova speech very easy to understand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Window-Eyes and Supernova > this should work though it is extremely inefficient and expensive to keep > both products up to date. Is Supernova really that bad that your friend > can't cope with it? what does your friend find particularly bad about it, > given that we are talking about someone who can use print. > > Cheers > > Graham > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:44 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Window-Eyes and Supernova > > > Hi all, > I was just wondering whether a friend of mine could use Window-Eyes as > her speech system and Supernova for her magnification? My friend is > willing to try out WE 5.5, but was wondering whether they're would be > compatibility issues when using the two products together. > Thanks, and I look forward to hear from you. My friend, by the way, is > Jenny Langley. > -- > Christopher Hallsworth > chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 1.1797 (20061010) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq