For this kind of portable use, nvda is realy the best and it has come so far that it might just do all you need it to do.
hth Doris At 09:46 PM 10/24/2012 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Steve Can I please ask you, how good actually is Supernova Screen reader and how does their activation policy work? Not really ignoring it, but yes, what I do hate about jaws is, for example, I'm going to do some voluntary work for eith a development or a legal NGO for a few weeks. I want to do more with the NGO sector in my country and, because its voluntary work and these ngos don't have much resources I have to make my own plans about screenreaders anyway. Just because I have to use someone else's system and bring my own jaws I have to use an activation key (demo is not an option, can you imagine on a job having to reboot every 30 minutes, mad). Then, because you have to use a key, you have to justify yourself to fs to reset your keys. Not to mention the even worse jaws feature (don't know if it still exists) the pro version and standard version. I'm terrified my jaws won't work on the computer I have to use anyway. Dolphin says they will give me 33% discount if I trade in my jaws. I would go for that if SN is good, or if their activation policy is different, or maybe I will try the pen route, don't really know the difference between the pen and cd version. I'm going to try the demo, but would be good to hear user feedback. My other option is, here in South Africa we have a version called the Sight Savers pen, but despite many emails to dolphin support I still haven't got an answer, I know the cheap pen is a cut down version of the full pen, but I want to know in what ways. Am basically trying to find a propper solution here. Instead of SN, how good would NVDA be with programs like excel and outlook? I know you could put it on a pen, but I feel quite scared that they will ask me to do something, nvda won't be up to the job then I'll look really embarrassed (this would look awful and unfortunately organisations are still very weary of hiring blind people, so don't want to take the risk and, even though its voluntary work, want to make a good impression) I've sort of played with nvda, but never really gotten into it, I also hate the speech. Like you say, the reason I don't do the WE is to me it does seem unfair. Not really about the activation, I wouldn't mind so much if everyone had it, but the fact that they have some sort of hierarchy, like people in US, UK and Australia are trusted, so no activation or protection, people in other countries aren't. I know of course they're entitled to do that if that's what they want, and I probably would admit that piracy occurs in the third world etc, but I don't want to buy from a company who operates like that. Ari On 10/24/12, Michael Ray <mike.ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I think Dolphin are getting left behind. > > I use NVDA. It's freeeeeee > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ari Damoulakis" <aridamoulakis@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:24 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: WindowEyes V Jaws > > >> Technically you can use jaws in safe mode. I can't remember if its on >> this list, but there's a registry change a person posted where it >> starts up the audio device in safe mode. Look, I'm not saying we is a >> bad screen reader or anything like that, but like Collin points out, >> if you're not in the UK you do have activation keys and all sorts of >> stuff. Of course you can get someone in the UK to buy it for you as a >> workaround, but then how do you solve the problem of upgrading it >> everytime? >> There's also of course Supernova screen reader and the Cobra, but I >> don't know how good they are and if they'd do what you want. Cobra is >> also nice because you can put it on as many computers as what you use. >> Ari >> >> On 10/24/12, Colin Howard <colin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Jaws demands registration for everybody no matter where they are and far >>> >>> as >>> I am aware, has only so many keys. Years ago, when I used WindowEyes at >>> work, this would have been in the mid 'nineties in the days of >>> Windows3.11 >>> and W.E V.3 and around, UK users also had the hassal of registration and >>> number of keys Etc. >>> >>> >>> Colin Howard, living near Southampton in Southern >>> England. >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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