If you have found something else that makes you more productive than Word that is absolutely fine not everyone may fall into the Microsoft Word hegemony. However, if you have no choice then there may be things to investigate. Twenty seconds to edit window from start seems a little long typical of perhaps Word 2002 or 2003 and not so well specced PC perhaps. Sighted people do get into trouble with Word and formatting it is just probably that you are not in a position to notice and I have to say that the Windows versions of Word are often far more tolerant than say on the Mac in this regard (I have used Word 2004 and now 2008 for Mac). However, I think there are a couple of things that can help especially regarding formatting. The first is an obvious thing but is often missed especially among a sighted crowd which is this, leave the formatting until you have the text sorted. As a blind user this should be a less difficult adjustment to make since you will be more interested in the ideas rather than the eye-candy. When you are creating what might be a list of some kind write the first item, then hit return and create second item and hit return etc. (ad nausium). If you leave the formatting until you have got things right and leave a blank line especially for a bulleted list you should be fine. When you come back to format put yourself at the top of the list and use control+shift+down arrow to hear each item in the list you wish to bullet and then select your bulleting style etc. You could take the same the same approach with numbered lists although this is where you frequently find you have missed an item and automatic numbers themselves can be helpful. If this is the case the best tactic is to locate your cursor at the end of the numbered item after which you need to insert your new item (right at the end of the line) and then press ENTER. The secret of the bulleted and number lists are the hard returns, If you wish to create a line without incrementing the numbers or putting in another bullet you can press shift+return to create a soft return. As far as font formatting is concerned try to use the built in styles because that way you will get a consistent look rather than having to remember what you did with the last title or section. On Word 2000-2003 you can press control+shift+S to get into the style list whilst ALT+H, L will get you into the style list in Microsoft Word 2007 and 2010. When highlighting a title (which usually just sits on one line) put yourself and the beginning of the line and press shift+end which will ensure you only highlight that line rather than any subsequent lines then apply formatting or style to taste. I wouldn't expect this to solve all your problems, and I may be teaching to suck eggs in which case excuse the post but it may be helpful to someone else on the list just starting out in any case. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk Mail: Tristram: tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Technical: Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx General - info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: Support line: 0845 634 7979 Sight and Sound Technology Limited is a company registered in England and Wales, with company number 1408275. Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD VAT Number - GB 860 2121 66. From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Rose Sent: 14 January 2010 09:38 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Why I hate Word - from a JAWS user Microsoft Word is meant to be brilliantly accessible. And indeed you can tell that Freedom Scientific have put a lot of work into it to make it as accessible as possible, it being a fairly indispensible part of the software port folio in your average office. Tables are accessible. You can increase font and change colours. You can alter margins, add page numbers, use hyperlinks, there's a hundred things you can do with it and they're all accessible. However, if you aren't a mouse user and can't whizz your way across the screen and appreciate the results once you've altered them, then it takes absolutely blinking ages to read and create documents that your sighted colleagues take minutes to create. Want to make your heading a bit bigger? And perhaps embolden it too? Well if you're not too careful, you might accidentally do same to the text below it in a last minute change of heart about the content. Result: it looks embarrassingly rubbish. Create a bullet point list and find yourself playing around with it for several minutes because you've got one too many bullet points and you can't get rid of the unnecessary bullet, or Word decides it wants to bullet point things that you didn't want. The best most accessible documents are the ones you create. You know them, you know your way round them. But it's still difficult. The documents that your colleagues like the most because they're 'at a glance' user friendly, are the ones you find most difficult to access. Access to Word is a myth because it's so time consumingly unusable. When you launch Word it takes 20 seconds before a blank document opens, longer if you're clicking on a pre-existing document. There's so much lag and there's a lack of control that makes me want to scream. So that's why I use Metapad and .txt files for as much of my work as possible, only transferring to Word if I need to spellcheck or format it in a fancy way. It's faster, unbelievably faster. Or that's my finding. And yes, I have had Word training, I do understand how it works, but there's so much darn pussyfooting around when creating documents that I can't help but think there must be a better way. That's all I wanted to say. Do have a nice day. Xxx Damon Rose Senior Content Producer bbc.co.uk/ouch BBC Vision Learning Tel: 020 8752 4427 (x0224427) email: damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx Have you heard the award-winning Ouch Podcast yet? A razor sharp disability talk show presented by Mat Fraser and Liz Carr: www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/podcast<file:///\\www.bbc.co.uk\ouch\podcast> http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. 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