[access-uk] Re: What podcasts, streams and radio do blind users here listen to?

  • From: Jonathan <digitaltoast@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:47:49 +0000

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Barry Toner <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Here's a very frank question...  Is it cost that prevents someone, (say in
> your position ),offering the extra features that some may want but hiding
> them from the perceived target audience?
>

A combination of both. Cost prevents audio menu navigation - you've got that
with the Sonata. That'll be four hundred quid, please.
And complexity or rather, simplicity - this was born out of 2 years of
getting feedback from blind users of various services.

It started with loads of choice, and gradually, buttons got removed, the
cost fell, until eventually "10 buttons, your choice of listening" hit the
right price/features for the intended audience.

You'll have to trust and believe me when I say that some people really
prefer to have a nice, simple device, configured to their wishes, without
having to get involved in broadband provision, or even know or care what
ADSL and wifi is or does.  As a technology list, this might seem a strange
notion; I know people who run Linux precisely because it's more complex than
Windows.

Again, it comes down to choice.


>
> I ask this because while I acknowledge there is a large older generation
> out
> there I do not believe that the majority of them given the choice would not
> want to use technology such as a computer to a degree if it gave them
> entertainment/independence.
>
> Why for example do we presume that because Older Person X who happens to
> have some level of sight loss is any different than Older person Y who has
> no sight loss but manages to push past the fear of something new at an
> older
> age.  Then email their granchild who's in college say in the US?
>
> Sureley it wouldn't be that difficult to add a number of keystrokes to
> change from say Basic to Advanced modes/views?
>
> Sorry am in a rush and didnt' have time to tidy this mail up!
>
> barry
>
>
>
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What podcasts, streams and radio do blind users
> here listen to?
>
> Barry:
>
> 1. Add to it independently: Yes
> 2. Remove presets if organisation or storage is compromised: Yes
> 3. Podcast search or a Podcast Directory should be included: Yes, but
> that's not the focus of this.
>
> It's kind of analogous to audio description: It's there if you have
> the right tv, but you can still hear the programme without it, if that
> makes sense?
>
> Now to Gordon's point:
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Gordon Keen <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Shudder, I'm sixty and if I ever found myself thinking of buying such a
> box I'd book my flight to Switzerland.
> > Sorry but technology should empower not restrict choice.
>
> OK, if you're happy paying £405 + £25+VAT per year, that's great. Not
> everyone has that luxury or cash. It's a choice, an alternative, like
> going to Switzerland or not.
>
> No one's going to make you buy it, just like no-one's going to make
> you buy cornflakes if you prefer Dorset Cereal's luxury muesli with
> yak's milk served in the finest bone china.
> But aren't you glad Mr Kellogg made it onto the shelf too? Horses for
> courses (usually second course, in France...)
>
> Or like Dignitas. There if you want it, but no one's going to force
> you to. But you wouldn't want to take that choice from others?
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