Hi Douglas. I have deleted your original message but I thought you were suggesting that it was a good idea to use webbie with Hal. I generally thought that Webbie was really intended for use if your screenreader would not do the job. I find Hal's help a little erratic and I don't want to plough through a big manual just to find shortcut keys so maybe I haven't done Hal justice but I get the impression that it does not have the range of navigation keys that Window-eyes or JAWS has, such as navigation by list, checkbox, combo box, this page link, division, bulleted list etc. I believe you can navigate by frame, table,heading or edit box however and of course you can use the standard tab and shift tab to move between formfields/links. Am I broadly correct here? Does Webbie have similar functionality to hal or can it move by a wider range of element types? Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Harrison" <harrison1d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Webbie Graham, I am afraid that I don't understand your first question. You can use Webbie with any screen reader Hal, Window-eyes, Jaws. It is only a browser presenting web pages in a simplified text based format which beginners may find easier to work with until they have become familiar with all the special key strokes available in their screen reader. The free Thunder screen reader (due to be released in July) is specifically intended to be used in combination with Webbie for browsing I think. Most of us are using version 6.53 of Hal/Supernova and expect to be able to upgrade to version 7 in July. Douglas On 5 Jun 2006 at 20:58, Graham Page wrote: > is the access with Webbie more reliable than that in Hal? > > Do you have Hal 6? > > I believe Hal 7 is either just released or about to be so. > > Cheers > > Graham > -- Douglas Harrison ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq