A couple of replies here: "By the by, it would be nice if anyone around here who is using the latest Apples with OS X and the screen reader would report on progress." There hasn't been any since VoiceOver was first posted, and there won't be any until Leopard (10.5), iTunes despite being version 7.0 is still innaccessible. Leopard is not a free update for 10.4 users, it will be chargeable. You will need a PC that incorporates the TPM hardware chip module to use the BitLocker system, and I think that is not available under the Home Edition VISTA titles. This chip will also allow content providers to control what is run on your PC a la DRM. There is a big cash difference between Home Premium and Ultimiate Edition, I don't know what the pricing is but it's likely to be more than a few pennies methinks. Driver signing will be compulsory on 64bit Windows, whilst 32bit will still be able to accept non-signed drivers on the same basis as happens now with a warning. Previously driver signing has been voluntary and as such most manufacturers have not done it. It is possible that for older hardware manufacturers take a financial decision whether to continue supporting that product as this is a certification process with Microsoft and it will cost them money to do it. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray's Home To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:03 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista delaying adopting OK Barry, those are compelling reasons to go over to Vista, and yes, the security thing and restricting accounts on the fly - think I've got that right - is certainly a good move. Still, I'd like to waite and see how the access cookie crumbles. So, the only thing after this issues holding me back is dosh - but as I've said, not from the screen reader standpoint. GW Micro seems to be treating us pretty fairly from that angle. I'll say now though, that apart from my previous computer aging some what and having limitations of hardware, the BIG plus for me with XP was stability. If Apple could have made an accessable OS that I could use, then, under Windows 9x I'd have been very tempted to switch. By the by, it would be nice if anyone around here who is using the latest apples with OS X and the screen reader would report on progress. Wonder what steps forward their screen reader will make in 10.5 - cannot recall just now which member of the cat family it will be named after, though it could be Cheetah. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Hi Ray. I'm security minded. One of the big selling points for me for Vista is running as a non-admin. You can do this in XP but you have to log in and out of an admin account to install programs that need admin access rights. Vista I believe allows you to do this on the fly by presenting you with a dialog where you can enter the admin password. I'm also interested in the bitlocked feature that encrypts your drives. Sure you can get third party apps to do this, but why would you want to if the OS already has it built in? Another security feature I like is the Address Space Layout Randomizer. On a performance note. I like the new instant search, and I'm planning on getting a drive when I can aford one that will take advantage of Windows ReadyDrive. I've 4GB of DDR3 Corse Air RAM but if I didn't I think the Windows ReadyBoost would be another feature I'd really enjoy. Windows SuperFetch is another improvement to increase program startup times. I've grabbed a quote from Paul Thurrott Re: the comments on hardware requirements. There seems to be a lot of speculation and confusiona bout this. If anyone doubts this guys authority to comment just google him. "On reasonably modern hardware, you'll find that Windows Vista runs just fine, thank you very much, and it's likely that most people won't notice any performance differences, when compared with XP, at all. On new PCs, of course, this won't be an issue, and Windows Vista will run like the proverbial greased pig. Much has been made of Vista's supposedly heady hardware requirements, but unless your current PC could serve as a prop on an episode of "The Flintstones," you shouldn't have anything to worry about." Guys remember that spec requirements aren't always what their made out to be. It depends what you are doing with your OS. The area I can't comment on is graphics cards as there is a few well alot of concerns floating about on this. I take Georges comments as he's been on the beta team and of course there are going to be hardware issues. People I talk to about hardware to keep saying that the manufacturers still need to release more drivers. I also like the sound of the reliability of Vista, admittedly it hasn't been tested in real-world scenarios enough but I have found XP alot more stable than previous OS's. Vista bosts how from a very low-level it has a much more stable platform. If I'm asked to pick one compelling reason for upgrading to Vista I can't. It's a combination of features that sell me. Thinking back I can't pick one reason why I upgraded to XP, other than because it was new and as a young guy at Uni studying Computer Science I try and make it my business to get exposure to the latest software as much as possible. I don't believe that anyone should have a system that ridiculously goes beyond what they need and would not suggest to my mother or father that they should upgrade to Vista ASAP. Especially as I'll end up supporting them! 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