[access-uk] Re: Vista delaying adopting
- From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:40:36 -0000
George thanks for a productive reply.
I was attempting to get an end users opinion on updating to Vista. I've
been listening to alot of pro podcasts on Vista and surrounding topics and
also reading the reviews written on,
www.winsupersite.com
Not as Kevin and Graham seem to imply trying to sell it to the members of
this list!
Guys upgrade dont' upgrade the money's not going in my pocket so why should
I care?
I was throwing it out there to try and start some intellegent conversation
on the matter. In a hope to see if it was people being put off by new and
unfamiliar technology or whither or not there is some solid reasons to not
upgrade or at least be cautious in doing so.
Dj Paddy
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----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista delaying adopting
I've been on the Vista Beta test list since it was called
"Longhorn". I'm running a fairly up to date PIV 3GHz, which
originally had just 512MB of RAM. I soon had to upgrade the
RAM, and raised it to 1,536MB.
Disappointingly, my super-duper NVIDEA graphics card, which
had cost me a small fortune, was not Vista compatible, and
never will be. It runs, but does not give me the special
enlargement capability which is a major feature of Vista.
More worryingly, my SoundBlaster Audigy card has failed each
and every time I upgraded Vista. For me, it's easy enough
to re-install the drivers, but would be a disaster for a
screen reader user without the benefit of sighted help.
I was also disappointed to find that I can no longer simply
plug in my Kodak digital camera, or my Sony Camcorder via
USB. They simply won't work - yet are fine under XP
Professional.
I am running the "Ultimate" version, which is akin to XP
Professional. I do have my system at home running a small
subnet off our main office network, over a pair of Draytek
Vigor 2600 routers. While I can access the office from
home, I've yet to get access the other way.
I'm also being frustrated by how often I'm told that I'm not
the [expletive deleted] administrator, and yet I am the
administrator. Even installing Adobe Reader 8, designed for
Vista, now tell me that I don't have permission to write to
the Windows "temp" folder. (Scream!)
Vista is different in many other areas too, with even subtle
changes to folder names where for example "Documents and
Settings" becomes "Users", and "Program Files" now has a
"Program Info" folder as a partner.
I'm usually the first in our office to upgrade my system,
mainly because I know that I will have to provide support.
But not this time. I simply cannot afford the hardware
upgrade costs, never mind the additional software upgrades,
such as Nero for example, which will cost too. And while it
is unlikely to affect most of you, I have the added
potential of needing a new file server.
So you may add my voice to those saying, "Wait". Microsoft
may just have shot themselves in the foot, and require to do
some fast produced Service Packs before it really takes off.
George.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy
Sent: 11 December 2006 13:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista delaying adopting
Tris.
I agree on the hardware point only because manufacturers
have not had long=20
to serv their wdm's yet.
I'd say 512MB of DDR2 or above would be a minimum but from
what I hear it's=20
not as slow as XP was when it first came out.
Just out of curiosity is JFW offering a free or payed for
upgrade?
I'm genuinly fascinated why alot of people that have replyed
on this list=20
are hoding back on Vista. Soem untill it releases SP1?
Is this because of Microsoft's experiences with XP? Which
was a nightmare=20
for attacks in the beginning.
Is it because of cost of access software?
Fear of the unknown?
A combination of many factors?
=D4=E0=06
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista delaying adopting
Generally speaking I would be against upgrading an O/S on an
existing PC=20
unless you get something that indicates that it could
possibly run the thing=20
like a VISTA capable logo. Also in terms of the hardware
requirements I=20
would factor it in with a new PC purchase. Vista definitely
won't run with=20
512mb RAM well, the hardware burden is higher than XP even
without taking=20
into account Aero graphics. Some have commented extreme
slowness with Aero=20
and powerful graphics cards, this may be down to drivers
needing to be=20
tweaked. but I would defintely be wary about putting Vista
on hardware that=20
is anything less than current.
If you are already a Jaws 8.0 user you will be able to use
this O/S when the=20
update is posted.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk
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