A few of things: 1) As far as I know the so called "what you hear" thing on soundcards is a hardware feature, most specifically of the SoundBlaster range of soundcards. There are probably others that also will do the same sort of trick. What is required is some spare DSP power that can be used to make what is effectively a smalll internal mixer in the soundcard that allows it to route streams back into the input for you to record in similar manner that you could using an external mixer. Not all soundcards have this and the one on my laptop doesn't have this feature either, but I am very sure it would not have done so even under Windows XP. 2) Recording of streams has not been specifically disabled in VISTA for copyright reasons. There is some DRM built into VISTA for sure but it isn't meant to stop you recording streams. The bulk or DRM is aimed either at stopping people pirating blue ray movies, or rights management to do with documents and other kinds of files used in a business context in conjunction with Trusted Platform Module chipset. 3) The Mac is no different from PC here, your standard Mac has a quite average kind of soundcard in it much the same as the majority of PCs have. By default the Mac does NOT allow you to record streams using only software provided by the OS X which I can state quite categorically. You can (rather like in Windows) find third party software that inserts a driver into the system to allow you to capture audio rather in the same way that screen readers have video interceptors to capture display info. On the Mac there is a relatively innexpensive utility called Wiretap Pro which does this which I have used. On the Windows front there is Total Recorder by High Criteria software. I am not sure how VISTA complient this software is because I couldn't get it to record JAWS or anything playing through the soundcard in VISTA this morning, but I haven't tried very hard and Microsoft have completetly redesigned the audio internals of Windows VISTA so it may appear to a user that they are somehow specifically trying to make your life difficult, but I am at least 95 percent sure that is not the case. However at present I cannot suggest another solution to knowing for sure unless somebody pops up using VISTA with something like a Soundblaster type card and can confim they can record streams.. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Technical Support Sight and Sound Technology ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq