[access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

  • From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:17:47 -0000

Hi Will. It's not Jacky's fault if she gets exempt from paying VAT. I personally don't have any issues with people who are being offered this exemption. I was hoping that Apple stores accross the board were offering this. If I have to pay full price for the product in question then I'll happily pay it without any fus. I've already asked the Bull Ring centre store about this and they are not offering it. That is just unfortunate for us and this tirade doesn't help anyone on this list. Asking people to pay back the difference isn't the right thing to do.


I'm glad Jacky put out the information in the first place. At least we are aware of this exemption. So on my part Jacky! There's no hard feelings and Marry Christmas to you all.

-----Original Message----- From: william lomas
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 12:50 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

it should not be up to the store, it should be a company wide policy
when i turned on voiceover my store should have givene me the v.a.t. off straight away why should some of you get it and not others, it disgusting next time i want an apple products not leaving store until i get it, simple as really you are all breaking the law and should pay it back blind or not, who do you think you are, to avaoid tax on products taht were not meant for you to be excempt from?

On 24 Dec 2012, at 11:34, "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Which part of "it is at the discretion of the store" don't you get?  How
about you come to terms with being blind and get rid of that big chip on
your shoulder?  Goodness me!!

Merry Christmas everyone, (lol).


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Will
Sent: 24 December 2012 00:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

If we can not all get it then u cheating system if we all get fair enough
Maybe if wear certain clothes i get? Where fairness?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 23, 2012, at 9:54 PM, "Steve Hyde-Dryden" <csdryden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

What utter twoddle Wil.  If you were one of those who were lucky to
not pay VAT then I bet you wouldn't be mouthing off.  Grow up and get a
life!

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Will
Sent: 23 December 2012 16:16
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

I hope all those people who have had the exemption are forced to pay
back

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 23, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Sean O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On 23/12/2012 11:50, paul leake wrote:
Nobody is getting away with anything! There should be consistency
throughout the company as certainly when the Trafford Centre apple
store checked, there was a definite policy! Clearly not all stores
appreciate this!

Cheers

Paul
Twitter: @paulleake1

paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message -----
From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:33:30 -0000
Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

Hi.  I contacted the Birmingham Store about this and they informed
me that they don't offer such exemption to VI customers.  What's so
unfair about it is some people are getting away with it when
Voiceover products haven't had any adaptions made to them so I don't
understand why there is an exemption in the first place.  I would be
interested to find out if anyone else has visitted the Birmingham
store recently.

-----Original Message-----
From: paul leake
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:51 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

I confirm that after some discussions with the Manager of the apple
store in the Trafford Centre, I purchased an Ipad and received the
vat deduction.  I explained that other stores had ^one this and they
checked Apple's policy and then agffeed that it was ok to do it.  I
specifically went to the apple store as I feared that other general
stores would have no idea!

Good luck!

Cheers

Paul
Twitter: @paulleake1

paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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another point to bear in mind with regard to tax (vat) exemption is
that t6his exemption only applies if the product is specifically
deigned for use by a person with a known access requirement( speech
in the case of people with  impaired vision), voiceover although
enabling Vi users to access Apple products, is an integral part of
the product and not specifically designed as an  optional
accessibility tool, if voiceover was a separate product requiring a
separate purchasing transaction the case for an exemption to VAT
would be stronger, maybe a chat with  the VAT office might be more
rewarding as they would be in a better position to advise on specific
grounds for VAT exemption , however, if you go through this route
don't expect a simple clear cut answer as the vat rules are
horrendously complex

sorry if this is not the answer the original enquirer was seeking but
its the best shot I can give on the subject

regards to all, Sean


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