[access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products

  • From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <lists.godfrey-mckay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:03:34 -0000

Martin, that may be what should happen, but I've certainly seen a recent
example where no VAT at all was charged on the PC, ay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:00 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products


>I wonder if this is one of those cases where individual Customs offices 
>make  local arrangements?  Think this used to happen in relation to the 
>charging  of VAT on PC packages which, for example, included a 
>screenreader.
>
> Agree that it would be better if a definitive answer were in place 
> -although the answer may well be that, strictly, current regs don't 
> give any room for VAT exemption.
> Richard
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> -----Original Message-----although it was on the accompanying printer!
Curious eh? 
> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> On Behalf Of Mike Cassidy
> Sent: 23 December 2012 23:22
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> Hi listers,
>
> The one thing that should happen with this affair is that there should 
> be equity. We can either obtain complete or partial VAT exemption, or 
> we can't.
> Which is it?
>
> Happy Christmas,
>
> Mike
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> On Behalf Of Richard Godfrey-McKay
> Sent: 23 December 2012 16:30
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> What ridiculous sour grapes! How on earth  would that attitude promote 
> the interests of blind or PS people?
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>
> Richard
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> Richard Godfrey-McKay
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Will
> Sent: 23 December 2012 16:16
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>
> I hope all those people who have had the exemption are forced to pay 
> back
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 23, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Sean O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> On 23/12/2012 11:50, paul leake wrote:
>>> Nobody is getting away with anything! There should be consistency 
>>> throughout the company as certainly when the Trafford Centre apple 
>>> store checked, there was a definite policy! Clearly not all stores 
>>> appreciate this!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> Twitter: @paulleake1
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>>> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Saqib" <Saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date sent: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 09:33:30 -0000
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>>>
>>> Hi.  I contacted the Birmingham Store about this and they informed 
>>> me that they don't offer such exemption to VI customers.  What's so 
>>> unfair about it is some people are getting away with it when 
>>> Voiceover products haven't had any adaptions made to them so I don't 
>>> understand why there is an exemption in the first place.  I would be 
>>> interested to find out if anyone else has visitted the Birmingham 
>>> store recently.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: paul leake
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:51 PM
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: VAT exemption on VoiceOver products
>>>
>>> I confirm that after some discussions with the Manager of the apple 
>>> store in the Trafford Centre, I purchased an Ipad and received the 
>>> vat deduction.  I explained that other stores had ^one this and they 
>>> checked Apple's policy and then agffeed that it was ok to do it.  I 
>>> specifically went to the apple store as I feared that other general 
>>> stores would have no idea!
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> Twitter: @paulleake1
>>>
>>> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> another point to bear in mind with regard to tax (vat) exemption is 
>> that t6his exemption only applies if the product is specifically 
>> deigned for use by a person with a known access requirement( speech 
>> in the case of people with  impaired vision), voiceover although 
>> enabling Vi users to access Apple products, is an integral part of 
>> the product and not specifically designed as an  optional 
>> accessibility tool, if voiceover was a separate product requiring a 
>> separate purchasing transaction the case for an exemption to VAT 
>> would be stronger, maybe a chat with  the VAT office might be more 
>> rewarding as they would be in a better position to advise on specific 
>> grounds for VAT exemption , however, if you go through this route 
>> don't expect a simple clear cut answer as the vat rules are 
>> horrendously complex
>>
>> sorry if this is not the answer the original enquirer was seeking but 
>> its the best shot I can give on the subject
>>
>> regards to all, Sean
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