[access-uk] Re: Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages
- From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:51:02 +0100
Hi Gordon: sorry sounds like I made too many assumptions too. what I
meant was, if you have the files which comprise your website locally on
your computer, not remotely on plus.nets servers, click on the index
file which is your sites homepage, this should open in your browser. or
alternatively from your browser do file menu, open, and then navigate to
find the index file. if this page shows without the single frame then
the frame is being added at some point between a visitor entering the
web address and and the pages loading. note of course that if your site
uses any database technologies then the pages won't actually load on
your machine with all the content but you should still get some of the
basic structure, sufficient at least to resolve the frame issue.
Cheers
Adrian Higginbotham
Accessibility and inclusion adviser
British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287
Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ
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From: G. McFarlane [mailto:gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 October 2005 15:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages
Hi Adrian
Thanks for replying.
My site is hosted on Plus net's servers. I purchased my stuff through
Plus net and Nominet.
I'm not sure I'm giving you the info you need. When you say try to load
it into my pc rather than the web do you mean into Front Page or
somewhere else.
Sorry for my ignorance.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Higginbotham
<mailto:adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:57 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Using Accessible Web Publishing
Packages
Hi Gordon:
the frame might actually have nothing to do with your site but
rather be to do with the provider of your domaine.
Where is your site hosted and how did you purchase your domaine?
some domain name providers, particularly at the budget end don't
actually hoste your site at the domain you have purchased but ratehr
redirect the user friendly domain to the less user friendly actual
location of the pages. this they do by delivering your page to the
domaine URL inside a frame.
try viewing your pages on your pc rather than via the Web - if
they are frame free here then this is what's going on.
Adrian Higginbotham
Accessibility and inclusion adviser
British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287
Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ
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From: G. McFarlane [mailto:gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 October 2005 09:06
To: WinXP Help; Jaws UK; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages
Hi
First of all please accept my apologies for cross posting - I'm
just not sure which site can help so in a desperate attempt to get some
information I'm hopefully not going to annoy too many.
I recently had my website redesigned to let the spiders get
access. Up till then I had used MS Front Page and had it sited on a
Front Page Server to cope with the extensions. The person I got to
rewrite it did so in something called Fusion and created a non frames
website. (He had said that for the spiders to access a site it was much
better to use a non framed site, so this is what he made.)
I created my first site in Front Page by using the Wizard and
reading the manual. This got me through. However when I upload the new
site lo and behold it puts a single frame round the page thus rendering
it inaccessible to the spiders. I do not unfortunately know how to make
a non-framed page in Front Page and am looking for advice, either on how
to do it in Front Page (my preferrd solution if possible) or to suggest
a good feature packed alternative program which would let me access and
alter the site he's made and upload it as a non framed entity.
Your experience is vital here as access is a big issue. I'm
probably too lazy to get into html programming at present (busy too) so
obviously an easier method with useful features would be good. Having
taken time on Front Page and bought the 2003 version I would like to be
able to use it but I'm prepared to move if necessary.
(By tthe way, I have found out since that tags can be put into a
framed page header to be accessed by the spiders, but I've also heard
that I'm better using my new non framed site if possible.) Has anyone
seen the Serif Web Creation and Publishing package - it sounds good, but
probably is not accessible. Anyone know?
Over to you.
Gordon McFarlane
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