Hi Adrian Thanks for replying. My site is hosted on Plus net's servers. I purchased my stuff through Plus net and Nominet. I'm not sure I'm giving you the info you need. When you say try to load it into my pc rather than the web do you mean into Front Page or somewhere else. Sorry for my ignorance. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Higginbotham To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages Hi Gordon: the frame might actually have nothing to do with your site but rather be to do with the provider of your domaine. Where is your site hosted and how did you purchase your domaine? some domain name providers, particularly at the budget end don't actually hoste your site at the domain you have purchased but ratehr redirect the user friendly domain to the less user friendly actual location of the pages. this they do by delivering your page to the domaine URL inside a frame. try viewing your pages on your pc rather than via the Web - if they are frame free here then this is what's going on. Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility and inclusion adviser British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287 Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: G. McFarlane [mailto:gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 10 October 2005 09:06 To: WinXP Help; Jaws UK; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages Hi First of all please accept my apologies for cross posting - I'm just not sure which site can help so in a desperate attempt to get some information I'm hopefully not going to annoy too many. I recently had my website redesigned to let the spiders get access. Up till then I had used MS Front Page and had it sited on a Front Page Server to cope with the extensions. The person I got to rewrite it did so in something called Fusion and created a non frames website. (He had said that for the spiders to access a site it was much better to use a non framed site, so this is what he made.) I created my first site in Front Page by using the Wizard and reading the manual. This got me through. However when I upload the new site lo and behold it puts a single frame round the page thus rendering it inaccessible to the spiders. I do not unfortunately know how to make a non-framed page in Front Page and am looking for advice, either on how to do it in Front Page (my preferrd solution if possible) or to suggest a good feature packed alternative program which would let me access and alter the site he's made and upload it as a non framed entity. Your experience is vital here as access is a big issue. I'm probably too lazy to get into html programming at present (busy too) so obviously an easier method with useful features would be good. Having taken time on Front Page and bought the 2003 version I would like to be able to use it but I'm prepared to move if necessary. (By tthe way, I have found out since that tags can be put into a framed page header to be accessed by the spiders, but I've also heard that I'm better using my new non framed site if possible.) Has anyone seen the Serif Web Creation and Publishing package - it sounds good, but probably is not accessible. Anyone know? Over to you. Gordon McFarlane -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 09/10/05