[access-uk] Re: Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages

  • From: "G. McFarlane" <gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:43:37 +0100

Hi Adrian
Thanks for replying.
My site is hosted on Plus net's servers. I purchased my stuff through Plus net 
and Nominet.

I'm not sure I'm giving you the info you need. When you say try to load it into 
my pc rather than the web do you mean into Front Page or somewhere else.

Sorry for my ignorance.

Gordon
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adrian Higginbotham 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:57 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages


  Hi Gordon:
  the frame might actually have nothing to do with your site but rather be to 
do with the provider of your domaine.
  Where is your site hosted and how did you purchase your domaine?
  some domain name providers, particularly at the budget end don't actually 
hoste your site at the domain you have purchased but ratehr redirect the user 
friendly domain to the less user friendly actual location of the pages. this 
they do by delivering your page to the domaine URL inside  a frame.

  try viewing your pages on your pc rather than via the Web - if they are frame 
free here then this is what's going on.

  Adrian Higginbotham
  Accessibility and inclusion adviser
  British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
  Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287
  Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
  BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ 





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  From: G. McFarlane [mailto:gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
  Sent: 10 October 2005 09:06
  To: WinXP Help; Jaws UK; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [access-uk] Using Accessible Web Publishing Packages


  Hi
  First of all please accept my apologies for cross posting - I'm just not sure 
which site can help so in a desperate attempt to get some information I'm 
hopefully not going to annoy too many.

  I recently had my website redesigned to let the spiders get access. Up till 
then I had used MS Front Page and had it sited on a Front Page Server to cope 
with the extensions. The person I got to rewrite it did so in something called 
Fusion and created a non frames website. (He had said that for the spiders to 
access a site it was much better to use a non framed site, so this is what he 
made.)

  I created my first site in Front Page by using the Wizard and reading the 
manual. This got me through. However when I upload the new site lo and behold 
it puts a single frame round the page thus rendering it inaccessible to the 
spiders. I do not unfortunately know how to make a non-framed page in Front 
Page and am looking for advice, either on how to do it in Front Page (my 
preferrd solution if possible) or to suggest a good feature packed alternative 
program which would let me access and alter the site he's made and upload it as 
a non framed entity.

  Your experience is vital here as access is a big issue. I'm probably too lazy 
to get into html programming at present (busy too) so obviously an easier 
method with useful features would be good. Having taken time on Front Page and 
bought the 2003 version I would like to be able to use it but I'm prepared to 
move if necessary.

  (By tthe way, I have found out since that tags can be put into a framed page 
header to be accessed by the spiders, but I've also heard that I'm better using 
my new non framed site if possible.) Has anyone seen the Serif Web Creation and 
Publishing package - it sounds good, but probably is not accessible. Anyone 
know?

  Over to you.

  Gordon McFarlane


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