Thanks for that enlightenment on what's going on with Braille reform these days. I am glad to hear its not too radical. Sometimes I wonder whether reforms should be driven by coding considerations translation program writers, but if it is going to end up being more readible both on the page and on refreshable displays, then I cannot work up much objection to what you have said. In fact, and maybe worth bringing up on the threads about NLB and the future of reading for us VI people, I would most likely accept some sort of secure text arrangement whereby I could rqead using soft Braille. I'm certainly not in the position where I could acquire, much less afford to buy, a braille notetaker/display, but if somehow I could be helped to have the use of one, then that would be the way to go for me. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <groups.dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: [access-uk] Unified English Braille > Hi, > > Braille reform is on the agenda, and I would like to make a few comments > about the proposals. > > Firstly, no letter or sign will change. How one or two contractions are > used may change a little, but nothing that would stop people reading old and > new braille. > > Basic punctuation will basically stay the same, but brackets and quotes need > to change slightly to enable braille to make it possible for people to > interpret what they are reading and be produced much more easily > electronically. > > When British Braille introduced the dual standard for the use of capitals, > they deliberately followed the rules from Unified English Braille so that > another set of changes wouldn't be needed, similarly with the new oblique > stroke sign. > > Itt is difficult to share computer, maths and science books internationally, > or even books with such symbols in them. This needs sorting out, and we > need to make it easy to produce these books as well. Currently, it is > difficult to automate, so is slow and expensive. Actually, the proposals > are much more like our braille than the American, and if they don't accept > the changes, then I'm doubtful that we would, but if they do, it would be > helpful if we do! > > We are definitely not revisiting the proposals from the 1980s. Nobody will > need to learn new contractions, and many people would be pretty much > unaffected this time. But we need to think about kids being able to get > school books more easily, students being able to study more easily and being > able to read the same thing on a braille display that you can in text, which > is currently rather tricky! > > Hey, most braille translators would also have to produce one table for > English braille instead of two or three at the moment, so they might even > get a bit cheaper! > > Cheers > Dave > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq