[access-uk] Re: Two more Gmail questions
- From: Catherine Turner <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 07:21:41 +0000
Hi Jackie and all,
I haven't used Outlook with imap and gmail, but did use imap and gmail
with Thunderbird. I think possibly the reason your deleted messages
are showing up in "all mail" is because that's what gmail has them do
- I think "all mail" means all mail including your trash. I maybe
didn't follow the discussion properly but when you delete them from
the inbox do they disappear from there?
Catherine
On 1/6/13, Doris and Chris <chipmunks@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Ms. Carol,
>
> Why do you think you cannot use jaws with the Thunderbird email
> client?! Are you going by hearsay with this or have you actually tried?
>
> While it is not my email client of choice (I am a long-time Eudora
> user) - Thunderbird certainly is and has been accessible with jaws
> and other screenreaders for several years, with and without special
> configuration files.
>
> Gmail is no different to use with Thunderbird or other email clients
> than any other email account you want to use with an offline client.
> The only thing you need to know is the settings for setting up gmail
> and those are given online in gmail, along with, if I remember
> correctly, with exaples for popular email clients.
>
> I have had a gmail account from pretty much when they first got
> started and were only available by invitation from other users. I
> have never seriously used Gmail thru its web interface but with
> Eudora and, very occasionally, thru outlook express when I set up
> their account for a friend.
>
> Don't hesitate to try several email clients and settle for the one
> that works best for you.
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
>
> At 08:31 PM 1/6/2013 +0000, you wrote:
>>Hi mo,
>>
>>That looks fairly comprehensive but a lot of work for me, and I
>>don't want to bother to do it, so perhaps I'll give Thunderbird
>>another try. By the way, What I really disliked was that I wasn't
>>able to use Jaws with Thunderbird. Does that still stand, or can I
>>make Jaws my speech screen reader?
>>
>>You may like to call me to take this off list, and any help you can
>>give, will of course, be much appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks. Carol P
>>
>>
>>
>>Carol P
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On 6 Jan 2013, at 12:43 PM, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I found this link which provides instructions on creating a macro
>> to take care of the deletion process. As i said, i haven't used
>> outlook on purpose for years, and strongly recommend people switch
>> to thunderbird for quite a few reasons but that's just my opinion. the
>> link is:
>> >
>> >
>> http://lifehacker.com/5555291/how-make-gmail-play-nicely-with-your-desktop-email-client
>> >
>> > Mo.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 06/01/2013 11:46, Carol Pearson wrote:
>> >> Jackie, I have the same problem exactly. I sort of get round
>> it by moving my messages to my bin folder which is the one that I
>> use when on the phone, but it doesn't work well and I hate Outlook
>> with a positive hate athe moment! Mo, or anyone else, if you find a
>> fix for this, I'm interested too, so please keep at least the
>> results on lists! Thanks! Carol P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> On 6 Jan 2013, at 10:27, "Jackie
>> Cairns"<jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Adrian
>> >>>
>> >>> I do receive them in Outlook, but they appear in an Inbox folder in a
>> >>> different tree called Gmail which, by default, is closed. When
>> I open it,
>> >>> then the Gmail folders are revealed pertaining to that
>> account. My problem
>> >>> is deleting them in Outlook, I can't. I need to log into my
>> Gmail account
>> >>> on the web, check every bloody box for each message, then delete. I
>> >>> just
>> >>> wish I didn't have to do that, but it's the only way I can get round
>> >>> it.
>> >>>
>> >>> What I have said remains strange in that I subscribed to the
>> >>> Eyes-Free
>> >>> mailing list using my BT account, but they all seem to come in under
>> >>> my
>> >>> Gmail account which I didn't even have at the time. Being quite
>> >>> honest
>> >>> about it, I don't keep that well, so my time on the PC per day is
>> >>> limited
>> >>> for fiddling around and persuading something to do what I want.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ho-hum, never mind! (smile).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Kind Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Jackie Cairns
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >>> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins
>> >>> Sent: 04 January 2013 16:08
>> >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Two more Gmail questions
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jacky
>> >>>
>> >>> You are definitely going about it the hard way, I receive all
>> my mail in my
>> >>> outlook inbox no problem, not sure why you can't receive the
>> >>> messages.
>> >>> Something must be wrong in the settings somewhere.
>> >>>
>> >>> Adrien
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
>> >>> Sent: 02 January 2013 12:47
>> >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Two more Gmail questions
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Mo and Andrew
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks to your input both, I have now got rid of my back-log of
>> >>> messages.
>> >>> It's a bit of a long way round for a shortcut, but I checked all the
>> >>> messages, then deleted them in the way you suggested Andrew.
>> >>> Now my various
>> >>> folders in Outlook are cleaned out. I still wish I could have them
>> >>> come
>> >>> into my regular Inbox like all my other subscriptions are set
>> to do, since I
>> >>> have rules assigned so each list has its own folder. But, hey,
>> that's got
>> >>> rid of what I don't need for now, and I'll just keep on top of
>> the traffic
>> >>> on the Gmail page now I know what happens.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks guys, great stuff.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Kind Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Jackie Cairns
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >>> On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
>> >>> Sent: 01 January 2013 17:25
>> >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Two more Gmail questions
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jackie.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not sure if i'm understanding you correctly, so please bare with
>> >>> me.
>> >>> I too can't seem to find an option to mark all the messages via
>> the web, it
>> >>> must be a GMail bug. i'd hit control A to select all in the list view
>> >>> in
>> >>> outlook, and hit delete. The difference between pop and imap
>> essentially is
>> >>> that pop was designed to download mail from a server to your
>> computer, then
>> >>> the mail would either be deleted from the server or remain there for
>> >>> ever
>> >>> regardless if you deleted it on your PC, unless you expressly set
>> >>> server
>> >>> options manually. Imap is a lot more versitile.
>> >>> any actions you carry out on your PC are replicated in realtime
>> to your mail
>> >>> on the server, its a lot more efficient. so in other words,
>> unless you set
>> >>> outlook to keep a copy of mail on the server its deleted or
>> moved to trash.
>> >>> you can also access all your folders via imap more efficiently, copy
>> >>> mail
>> >>> between folders, etc so the long and short of it is you've made
>> an excellent
>> >>> choice by using imap. Also, if you use other devices and set your mail
>> >>> up
>> >>> via imap, any actions carried out on your other devices are also
>> >>> automatically carried out on your PC because it'll syncronise.
>> I hope this
>> >>> all makes sense? what did you have trouble with when deleting
>> using outlook?
>> >>> to speed things up, i'm more than happy to give you a call at your
>> >>> convenience so we can discuss this, just drop me a note off list.
>> >>>
>> >>> all the best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Mo.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 01/01/2013 16:42, Jackie Cairns wrote:
>> >>>> Could I possibly ask two more Gmail questions please?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Firstly, does anyone know how to delete Emails on the
>> >>> Gmail web page?
>> >>>> Now I have created an account in Outlook, thanks to the
>> >>> very good
>> >>>> instructions on a link Mo provided, I can now read my
>> >>> messages, but am
>> >>>> unable to delete them. I can't seem to find the box to
>> >>> check them all
>> >>>> on the website so I can delete them from the server, and I
>> >>> can't
>> >>>> delete them from Outlook in the same way I can with all
>> >>> stuff in
>> >>>> folders from my regular Inbox. I hope this makes sense.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Secondly, what is the difference between Imap and Pop,
>> >>> apart from the
>> >>>> protocols? I opted to route my Gmail account to Outlook
>> >>> 2003 using
>> >>>> Imap, and just wonder what the difference is in using it
>> >>> instead of Pop.
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kind Regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jackie Cairns
>> >>>>
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