Hi Jim, pressing ctrl + F1 toggles whether or not the ribbon is minimized, David. original message: Hi List members, Does anyone on the list know how to turn the ribbons off in windows live mail so you get only the top menues, file edit ect? I know it can be done but can’t remember how it was done. Any help appriciated. Jim ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq