Yes Colin, you've raised a point there. So Mandy, there you go, why not sign up for the vi-genaccess list and ask there. To subscribe, send a blank message to vi-genaccess-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and reply to the confirmation message. This, of course, applies to everyone, not just Mandy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Fowler To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Travelise and Vitaleyes. Chris, Wouldn't it be more productive if you reminded folk that for general VI associated topics they should be directing there enquiries through vigenaccess? Many of us subscribe to this list purely for the technical access content. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hallsworth To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Travelise and Vitaleyes. Mandy, both Traveleyes and Vitalize have websites. Just do a Google search and they should be there. Hope that helps. May I remind you all, Google is your friend! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mandy To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: [access-uk] Travelise and Vitaleyes. Hi Apologies if I've those spellings wrong and if this is off topic. Please can someone tell me a little about these two organisations - what are the prices like how do we go about joining is there a yearly subscription fee? Mandy.