Great idea, I think it should be put to RNIB to get one of their reviews out on this handset via tech no more blog? I would be very interested to hear how the phone stands up against it's hugely more expensive peers out there. On 11/23/13, terry <terrycooper94@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi > > Has anyone on the list got there hands on a moto g yet? Specifically, > anyone who has one and has also used an iphone. How do they compare? > > I've always disliked a lot of the handcoughs associated with the iphone, > and > could be very tempted to move to this phone if it does similar things to > the > iphone. > > Thanks for any comments. > > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Mobeen Iqbal > Sent: 23 November 2013 12:16 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G > > hi. not sure about it having been turned off, all i know is whenever i've > been in to a shop and tried the triple tap trick, its never worked and i've > had to get someone sighted in to activate accessibility, and by that time > i've felt like walking away. Also, when apple release upgrades to IOS and > accessibility breaks, they may not be in a hurry to fix reported issues > from > what i've heard. Sighted people have also had trouble with IOS7, for > example > the keyboard looks different and despite numerous requests on the apple > forums to bring the old keyboard back, i don't think they've done so. I'm > not saying android's perfect at all, but at least problems can be remedied > without breaking the bank. > > Mo. > > On 23/11/2013 11:40, Kevin Cussick wrote: >> this is correct just the same as IOS if you switch the triple tap off >> it won't work for the next person. I hear that the triple tap has been >> switched off buy default now is this correct? if so it is a step >> backwards. thanks in advance. >> >> On 23/11/2013 11:13, Vincent Thacker wrote: >>> Saqib, the two-finger trick only works if the phone is new. If >>> someon'e used it without accessibility being turmned on, they'd have >>> to use the menus. At least that's my understanding. It wouldn't be >>> hard for Google to amke all this better than it is, I'm sure. >>> >>> Vince. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> Message Received: Nov 23 2013, 09:20 AM >>> From: "Saqib" >>> To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" >>> Cc: >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G >>> >>> I'm not really convinced with that mehtod of turning accessibility >>> on. I tried a friend/s Samsung S3 Mini from the setup screen and it >>> didn't do anything. I tried to get my daughter to turn Talkback on >>> her S3 Mini and kept on getting a error message about setting the >>> right language when the phone was purchased here in the UK. This is >>> why people just don't trust the Android OS because it doesn't do >>> what it says on the tin I'm afraid. Another example is when I bought >>> a tablet and Talk back would read what I was touching and then it >>> would cut out and read nothing. I mean how bloody shabby is that. >>> I'm honestly trying to give Android the benefit of doubt put these >>> incidents don't help a jot. Large propotion of people turn to IOS >>> because it's trusted and Voiceover is well polished. Another words >>> it does what it says on the tin. I would love to promote Android as >>> well as IOS but how can I recommend something that just never works >>> as it should! >>> >>> > On 22 Nov 2013, at 11:04, "Steve Nutt" wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Mo, >>> > >>> > Turn it on, wait for about 20 seconds, then put two fingers on >>> the screen >>> > slightly apart. After about four secs it will come up talking. >>> Job done. >>> > >>> > All the best >>> > >>> > Steve >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Computer Room Services >>> > 77 Exeter Close >>> > Stevenage >>> > Hertfordshire >>> > SG1 4PW >>> > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>> > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>> > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>> > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of >>> > Mobeen Iqbal >>> > Sent: 22 November 2013 09:31 >>> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Moto G >>> > >>> > Hello. >>> > >>> > Its worth remembering that that price is for the 8GB version sim >>> free. >>> > the 16GB version will set you back £160 sim free from phones 4 u. >>> Steve, >>> > how do you launch the accessible setup on this handset? it >>> would be >>> > fantastic if we can have full access to the device out of the >>> box. >>> > >>> > all the best, >>> > >>> > Mo. >>> > >>> >> On 22/11/2013 08:53, Steve Nutt wrote: >>> >> Richard, >>> >> >>> >> The Moto G is already available in Phones4U at 119.00 with a 10 >>> pounds top >>> >> up or 135 pounds Sim-Free. >>> >> >>> >> We will hopefully be selling it from December, price to be >>> announced, >>> > though >>> >> not quite that cheap. It will be sub-200 pounds though. >>> >> >>> >> This is a very worthy phone for the price, has 4.3 out of the >>> box and will >>> >> have 4.4 Kitkat on it by January 2014. >>> >> >>> >> I am told by Someone who already owns it that it is accessible >>> even to the >>> >> point of setting it up with no sight, so Motorola haven't >>> skinned it that >>> >> much either. It is almost a pure Google phone. >>> >> >>> >> It is not 4G compatible, though for the price, this is to be >>> expected. >>> >> >>> >> Well worth a look. >>> >> >>> >> All the best >>> >> >>> >> Steve >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Computer Room Services >>> >> 77 Exeter Close >>> >> Stevenage >>> >> Hertfordshire >>> >> SG1 4PW >>> >> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>> >> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>> >> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>> >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf >>> > Of >>> >> Richard King >>> >> Sent: 21 November 2013 11:21 >>> >> To: access-uk >>> >> Subject: [access-uk] The Moto G >>> >> >>> >> I think that Android is definately worthy of consideration over >>> Apple >>> >> at the moment, I have heard that Google are about to launch a >>> new >>> >> handset since taking over Motorola Mobile, called the Moto G. >>> And the >>> >> word is it will retail in the UK for £135, a fraction of the >>> cost of >>> >> an iPhone. 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