I agree but I also think that if you come across a Kindle book that you need or want and it is not speech enabled we should pressurise the publishers. This should be the case especially if there is no audio version either. The development of the Kindle has I believed shifted what is reasonable in terms of adjustment. I think it is now completely unreasonable not to provide accessible versions of these books given the relative ease of adjustment. It should be remembered that significant progress on the accessibility of the Kindle Reader only materialised after the USA Blind organisation started to take service providers using the Kindle to court as the use of the device then discriminated against visually impaired service users. The new equality act places specific obligation on providing print in accessible formats for visually impaired people. Its in law now, and not just in guidance so the time to increase pressure is now, I think. Regards David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Jarvis Sent: Sunday, 10 October 2010 00:45 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Kindle and accessible content Andy, I wrote to this list recently saying that, like you, I'd done an unscientific survey of which books had TTS enabled and which didn't. At the time I looked at around 200 titles and found that about half had TTS enabled. My subsequent exploration of the Kindle Store has resulted in roughly the same proportion and not, as one person claimed on this list at around the same time, that most titles were enabled. However, even at an approximate 50% hit rate, that's still several hundred thousand titles I now have access to which I didn't previously. I'll take those odds any day. As to which titles are enabled or disabled, its not really about how recent the titles are so much as who has published them from what I can see. I've certainly purchased several brand new titles which were fine. The Authors' Guild approach is based on a complete mis-understanding of what TTS is as compared to an audio production of the content. Whether that mis-understanding is intentional or otherwise is, in mhy view, open to debate, if you get my drift. All the best, Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDY COLLINS <mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 9:50 AM Subject: [access-uk] The Kindle and accessible content Hi all - Out of interest, I've just spent some time searching for 15 ebooks in the Kindle store of which only 4 had tts enabled! The titles I deliberately looked for were more recent releases. Given the results of this piece of research, I have to say I'm very disappointed, so even if the reader was more accessible, until more authors allow text to speech for their work, I don't believe the Kindle offers value for money. It looks like more older titles are available, but even there, most still are not. I can't understand the thinking of authors who refuse tts access to their books, I wonder what they are afraid of? - It is true to say that if one is not too fussy about what one reads, just wanting to find something for free, or that has tts accessability, then there may well be enough to go at, but for me, I don't wish to waste my time reading just for readings sake, there's loads of great material out there, and I for one, want greater access to it! Andy __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5518 (20101009) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5518 (20101009) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5518 (20101009) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq