[access-uk] Re: The Asus Vivo Stick is a cheaper, better Windows 10 pocket PC

  • From: Aman Singer <aman.singer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 05:54:13 -0400

Hi Amro,

In my experience, there is no need for a screen. Honestly, if I had to
use a screen, these units would be completely useless to me, I might
as well buy a laptop and suffer with the screen taking up space and
running down the battery to no purpose. Laptops would have better
specs and support. Obviously, you can connect a screen to the stick
and, if you get a driver which insists on a screen, you can use an
adapter, but for a blind user, the whole point of these units is that
they don't need a screen.
Aman


On 10/21/15, Amro Bilal <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Aman, can you use this stick without plugging it into a screen? Thanks.
Amro

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Oct 2015, at 12:02 a.m., Aman Singer <aman.singer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Mo,

Everything I've seen or heard about has a standard UEFI firmware.
Access is as usual, they will most often display the key on the screen
but,
if they don't, people on the forums will mention it or one can try until
one
hits the spot. I'm not sure where I got the info about both my machines,
but
they use F7. Keep in mind that people need this key to dual-boot Android
or
Linux, so it will be available on the forums or through a Google search
in
the vast majority of cases.
I'm afraid I cannot be at all helpful on the keyboard. If you find
one I, for one, would be most grateful to hear of it.
HTH,
Aman



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 5:35 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Asus Vivo Stick is a cheaper, better Windows
10
pocket PC

Hi Aman.

Many thanks for such an in depth post! when you say you like to wipe the
machines, do they have a bios on them in that case? if so, how would you
go
about accessing it? i'd assume you'd just try the usual key combinations
on
startup until 1 works? also, i'm looking for a pocket keyboard with arrow
keys about the size of a credit card or slightly larger. do you know of
any
that are available? I know there's the Rii tech mini keyboard, but i'm
looking for something similar with a micro USB port.

all the best,

Mo.

On 20/10/2015 22:25, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi Mo and all,

Though I haven't seen the Asus unit and, indeed, am not sure when it

will be out, I have been using these stick PCs as my portable
computers for about six months now. I have two, one is the MeegoPad
t01 and the other the Vensmile IPC002 (these units go by a ton of
other names, the usual sources for Chinese machines, gearbest.com,
dealextreme.com, geekbuying.com, maketheone.com... will have them).
They generally work very well with both Jaws and NVDA. Obviously, I'm
speaking of the Intel units with Windows, though the Android ones are
also fairly good with Talkback. Android 4.4 or above is absolutely
necessary though because of the better keyboard support Talkback has
under that version of the OS. They are not the fastest machines on the
planet, but if you're not transcoding audio/video, they are more than
usable. I often use them to OCR a few pages from a sheet-fed scanner
or from PDF and OCR is slow but possible. Their benefits are the small
size, compatibility with standard software and hardware (including
braille and scanners), almost unlimited battery life because they run
from USB batteries, and, of course, the rock-bottom price. The
disadvantages are the few USB ports (I haven't found anything with
over three ports), the fact that they aren't very fast (I have OCRed
PDF books of several hundred pages but it took quite a while), the
lack of support (any trouble and the best you can expect is your money
back and often not that), and the small amount of disk space available
on their main drives. I'm afraid an additional drive isn't really
optional
with them. This is taking care of itself, though, I've seen a few with 64
and 128 GB internal drives if you want to pay for that.
As for the headphone jack, most actually do have headphone jacks, in

my experience at least. When they first came out, about a year ago, it
was a rarity, but the manufacturers seem to have lost any aversion
they had and are now putting them on most devices. Even if the device
that catches your fancy doesn't have one, keep in mind that HDMI to
3.5 MM/VGA adapters are available, though they do cost a good 20% of the
price of the computer.
Also, this may well be paranoya on my part, but I like to wipe
everything that comes into my hands and install Windows from my own
installation media. I know that one device came with Chinese spyware,
I wasn't able to read it but when I did a search, I found the producer
to be an advertising service. I would, some months ago before the
Lenovo disaster, have said that Asus wouldn't have this problem, but I
don't think anyone is immune. I hope, though, that they will provide
some
sort of support.
If you're looking for reviews you might like to try
http://liliputing.com/ http://androidpc.es/
http://www.minimachines.net/
The last two are in Spanish and French but, though I have very
little
French and no Spanish at all, they are quite easy to understand.
As for pocket keyboards, I really like the Microsoft folding
keyboard. It's expensive, but the key travel is OK, the size is
excellent, and the connectivity isn't at all bad. There are also those
tiny keyboards which can literally be run from the pocket, they're all
much of a muchness and work well with the sticks.
HTH,

Aman

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:50 PM
To: BCAB Discussion List
Subject: [access-uk] The Asus Vivo Stick is a cheaper, better Windows
10 pocket PC

Hi. The hole concept of having a fully fledged computer in my pocket
is certainly intriguing. This device will apparently have a built in
headphone jack, and can be powered by a USB battery pack. it has built
in WiFi, bluetooth, and 2 full sized USB ports. best of all, its
running windows 10 out of the box. I can't wait to get my hands on
one. its amazing to think that you could install all your favourite
apps either as portable versions using a pen drive that you'd plug in,
or on to the device it self, and have a full PC experience discreetly in
your pocket.
Its a shame they didn't include a Micro SD card slot, but maybe
that'll be included by the time they release this. All the other
devices i've seen of this type don't have built in headphone jacks,
but this one certainly does meaning that someone VI wouldn't even have
to plug it in to a monitor. just hook up your bluetooth keyboard, plug
in a pear of earphones and you're away! now to find a decent pocket
sized bluetooth keyboard. any ideas anyone? the link to the review is:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2978182/ifa/the-itty-bitty-asus-vivo-st
ick-is -a-cheaper-better-windows-10-pocket-pc.html

all the best,

Mo.

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