[access-uk] Re: TVonics in administration
- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:41:42 +0100
Hi Eleanor
I don't want to get into a big debate about what happened as only RNIB
themselves can and probably will make a statement about it. And Tris has
made some valid points about them wanting to perhaps stick to a smaller
player than go with one of the bigger outfits.
But many of us are members of RNIB and, therefore, do have some right to
ponder and even the need to know what they have spent that amount of money
on.
That doesn't detract from what the collaboration between RNIB and TVonics
has produced though. It is a really good product, and I find it very
useful. I don't record a lot, but the EPG is helpful, and the ability to
ascertain what channel you are on and the programme being shown make it so
much more accessible. It's very unfortunate this has happened, and I hope
everyone who wants one will get a TVonics before they disappear.
Kind Regards,
Jackie Cairns
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 21 June 2012 09:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TVonics in administration
Absolutely Jackie and sorry for my numerical mistake when I said 1.5 million
instead of 1.7 million
-----Original message-----
From: Jackie Cairns
Sent: 21/06/2012, 9:22 am
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TVonics in administration
I thought I read £1.7m, but it seemed too fanciful.
I'm not bashing RNIB, but I can't understand why they collaborated with this
company when it had already been in administration if what I have read is
correct? Surely anybody worth their savvy would have checked out the
legalities before entering into such a costly venture.
If they worked with Goodmans on a Freeview box with speech, I wonder why it
wasn't possible for them to enhance that setup by producing the same HDD box
that TVonics has produced? Then there is Panasonic with its TVs that
incorporate speech. I wonder why RNIB, if they assisted in this
development, couldn't have negotiated further to produce the said Freeview
recorder?
I know it's never that simple, and perhaps Panasonic and Goodmans wanted too
much money, or weren't prepared to go down that road for whatever reason.
But it begs the questions don't you think people?
Just my tuppence.
Kind Regards,
Jackie Cairns
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jonathan H
Sent: 20 June 2012 18:10
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TVonics in administration
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Eleanor Burke
<eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think that RNIB who have invested 1.5 million should give us an
> up-to-date statement. As I recall when the recorder came on the
> market and was being discussed on this list, someone from RNIB did
> send a mail to this list all about this 1.5 million invested.
I have it here and have copied the relevant parts below. £1.7 MILLION is a
helluva lot, even at the £200 per hour they say they pay their consultants,
that's 4 consultants at £200 per hour working 8 hour days for an entire year
on this. So, yes, I'm as keen as anyone to know what this library looks
like. Anyway, here's the email:
From: "Long, Alison" <Alison.Long@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:22 PM
Tvonics have been supported by RNIB financially and with other expertise to
deliver what they have;
RNIB invested 1.7 million pounds in the delivery of a technical library.
This we did after establishing that the industry believed what we were
asking for was completely impossible, technically not viable, and we had
exhausted discussions with Europe and government with regard to funding.
(I was told by technical experts at the European digital TV level that it
was impossible to conceive of talking TV for at least 15 years).
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