hi all, not too mention the fact, the mainstream products are usually significantly cheaper than the "special" stuff for blindies! smile. personally, i'm not going to fork out a load of extra money for a product aimed at us blindies, if there's a mainstream product available that does the same job that i can use. Kevin - owner of the audyssey gamers discussion list at: www.audyssey.org contact me via email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:06 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV viewing for the visually impaired new product > Must say that the more I find out about special things for blindies, the > more I want to keep on doing things the ordinary way. Don't order that > currency detector, meaure the notes against your middle finger, that sort of > thing. As for watching the telly, it seems the answer is to get a telly. And > the Nebul box would keep things ordinary, so that everyone else could watch > it, and not even have to loan me money! > > Vince. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:13 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV viewing for the visually impaired new product > > > > Hi Ray > > > > I agree with you completely. The more I use the Nebula solution, the more > > I think that Digi TV in my view is a model of excellence in terms of > > accessibility. Much of my job involves assessing applications for > > accessibility and putting things right when I need to, usually through > > scripting/mapping, or by working with Developers to ensure they do what > > they need to. In that regard, you would be hard pressed to find something > > which is quite as accessible as the Digi TV program. It is outstanding! > > > > Yes I should imagine the cost for this newer updated model of the Portset > > product will be more than most people can afford. > > > > Brian Hartgen > > > > MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx > > SKYPE: brianhartgen > > SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186 > > SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 6:39 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: TV viewing for the visually impaired new product > > > > > >> Interesting indeed Brian. Just wonder though if the price for this unit, > >> seemingly with a video output, will be equally excruciating! > >> > >> I'm really sorry to say that about this unit, but if the audio only > >> version > >> couldn't have been brought to market for a lesser price then I'm not sure > >> it > >> was worth bringing to market at all. > >> > >> Given also the success people on this list are having with the Nebula > >> Freeview cards and boxes, I am surprised anyone who has a computer or two > >> would seriously give the audio only version house room. > >> > >> Let's see how much the one you can see, as well as hear, is going to > >> cost. > >> > >> From Ray > >> I can be contacted off-list at: > >> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf > >> Of Brian Hartgen > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> I note that on the describe on-line web site > >> www.describe-online.com > >> within the Sight Village page, Portset have placed an advertisement on > >> the > >> site which includes a description of the products they will be > >> exhibiting. > >> Here is a quote concerning their talking Freeview receiver which is quite > >> relevant given recent list discussion: > >> > >> Look out for the preview of the accessible video display version to > >> provide > >> the normal set-top box capability with added voice information, hard-disk > >> recording, > >> spoken 7 day EPG and much more, ideal for the family for both sighted and > >> visually impaired. > >> > >> > >> Brian Hartgen > >> > >> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx > >> SKYPE: brianhartgen > >> SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186 > >> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581 > >> > >> > >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> ** and in the Subject line type > >> ** unsubscribe > >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > >> ** immediately-following link:- > >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > >> ** or send a message, to > >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > >> > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 01/06/2006 > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 02/06/2006 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq