Hi,
Yes, they've taken bits from Talkback, as it is open source. But it is not
Tlakback.
All the best
Steve
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rajmund
Sent: 27 April 2016 09:06
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Hello,
Looking at podcasts, though, and did sound like talkBack. In fact, if you
disable touch braille, you use the same commands as with talkBack on the
touch?
Sent from a BrailleNote
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Date sent: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 08:20:50 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: THOUGHT FOLLOWING BRAILLENOTE TOUCH LAUNCH
Hi,
Not at all. Talkback is quite different.
All the best
Steve
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rajmund
Sent: 26 April 2016 18:14
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: THOUGHT FOLLOWING BRAILLENOTE TOUCH LAUNCH
Hello,
Isn't keySoft just a redesigned talkBack?
Sent from my iPhone 5S
On 26 Apr 2016, at 6:08 pm, Ian Macrae <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I asked the questions about Kitkat and more recent apps. The reason given
for going with KitKat was that it had their preferred level of
accessibility. They also said that Google was concerned to continue
supporting older OS versions because of the numbers of their customers
who?셱e still working with devices running them. There was an estimate
that around fifty per cent of all Android users are still using KitKat and
older versions.
Humanware will be putting on its website a page recommending apps on the
grounds of accessibility. But there was also a general Caveat emptor
warning about buying apps from the Play store as many will not have been
optimised for accessibility.
On 26 Apr 2016, at 17:12, paul leake <paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Interesting Ian. How did you hear of the launch and where was it?
I wonder if the silent keyboard write as fast as the in-case one, it'd be
interesting to test this. Also my concern is that the use of kitcat means
that we're behind before we start the race" as my guess is that they won't
develop the operating system beyond that and in five years time where will
that leave the product? What are your thoughts about this question?
Yes, it does look interesting and I intend to get a demo to put it through
its paces!
Kind regards,
Paul
paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
,twitter: @paulleake1
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Date sent: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 16:34:56 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] THOUGHT FOLLOWING BRAILLENOTE TOUCH LAUNCH
Just back from the Humanware event. the launch was a smoothly and
professionally run event with Humanware as usual showing that it cares
about its customers. I went to it not exactly a sceptic but certain
requiring persuasion. I cam away from it not converted but definitely
impressed. this is exactly what it claims to be an android tablet with
Braille fully integrated.
Any concerns about Android accessibility or usability are dealt with by the
fact that the tablet is operated using Humanware's proprietary Keysoft
suite of apps as an overlay. In other words, if you know the commands and
conventions of using keysoft you can run the Braillenote Touch as a tablet.
In order to operate in a more demanding environment Keysoft has had several
elements upgraded. So you might say that what it is is a Tablet disguised
as a Humanware note taker. The demo strongly indicated that everything you
would want to do on the tablet from writing and sending an email to
searching for and watchi n g a You Tube videos can be effectively done
using the Keysoft apps. One thing that's different from previous Humanware
products is that if you create a document in Keyword, the word processor
app, it is presented in Microsoft docx format. But the real kicker is the
method for inputting Braille. If you briefly rest your fingers on the
touch screen behind the Braille display it gives a short vibration. This
means it has recognised your fingers and the positions they are in. You
can then begin inputting Braille directly on to the screen which appears on
the Braille line.
What I found interesting was that even things like dot 8 for enter and 7
for backspace performed these actual functions. The device can also be
supplied with a smart case which also contains a full Humanware Braille
keyboard.
I have to say, being a hopeless gadget boy, when I saw and used it I
immediately wanted one. Trouble is that I can do all of these things
accessibly on my iPad and iPhone optionally using my Braille device via
bluetooth. The difference of course is that the Keysoft first letter
selection method of navigation means that if you land on a web page and
have no idea what it looks like or where anything is, you can immediately
find the search button by pressing the Braille . letter s.
It comes in two versions, 18 and 40 cell displays. the former is 2995 and
the latter 3995 which gives some indication of how much the price is loaded
by the cost of the Braille cells and tech. If I was starting all over and
didn't have any other devices I would give it serious consideration. But
its real potential lies with learners inparticular who are coming new to
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