Hi,You sometimes have to wonder if the companies, such as you mentioned Barry get their item from B&Q then re-sell it! I know, having been in sales that it was infuriating to find that the general public could purchase items as cheap if not cheaper than we could buy it in as a retailer.
Tooooo many middle men? eh? Regards, Mike----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:38 PMSubject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK PRICES
Hi Steve and allI do appreciate the genuine extra costs that a UK distributor of access goods has, but I also feel that there are some that are just rip-off's. For instance, I was looking for a shower seat for my mum recently. I went to a specialist access company for the seat where the price was £79.99. My sister went to B&Q and found the exact same seat for £17.99. I know that B&Q have massive buying power, work on small profit margins with high turnover and don't have reps, but that's one hell of a mark up.Cheers Barry -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfSteve Nutt Sent: 15 September 2010 2:16 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK PRICESHi Gordon,What the US resellers don't pay is import duty. So the guy who discounts for shipping in the US can't take account of UK import duty, which is hefty.All the best Steve -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfGordon Keen Sent: Monday 30 August 2010 10:02 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UK PRICESSo U.S. retailers have the same range of costs to meet as their U.K.Kequivelents but U.K. prices are higher, is that right? Regards G From glorious Devon, England. On 30 Aug 2010, at 09:26, Glenn Tookey wrote:Yes, I am sure they do, but they do not do it for the UK, we have tothat and it is an overhead that forms part of the equation, that's all I'mdosaying.normally of the US price. The Pearl is the only exception because our dealer discount does not cover all of the costs outlined in George and My emails.As, I said earlier, the price of our products in £ is within a few %out dealer discount returns to normal level, then the Pearl will follow theWhen the discounted period end and the price in the US goes to $1200andsame structure as our other UK products.Regards Glenn -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalfOf Gordon KeenSent: 29 August 2010 16:47 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [access-uk] Re: THE OLD CHESTNUT OF FREEDOM'S US AND UKPRICESAre you saying that U.S. distributors do not provide the same levelofsupport and after sales service?(raised eyebrow) Regards G From glorious Devon, England. On 29 Aug 2010, at 16:28, Glenn Tookey wrote:So, taking up George's commentary, now the goods are in theReseller'swarehouse in the UK.have to pay the shipping) - however good a product some of them need afterNow have to allow for warranty and repairs (if we return goods to USwesales attention and service.potential customer which means taking them to exhibition (pay staff, pay for vehicle, pay for travel costs, pay for insurance etc) and / or take the goods to a home demonstration. Software is still shipped in boxes as customers still want the media. The cost of taking a product on the road toMany AT products- especially new ones - have to be taken to thedemo is significant.For software we also provide free helpdesk support, sometimes thatmeanshours on the phone for one specific problem.too far out from the US price, the exception for us at Sight and Sound isWhen you look at the UK price for a product you will find that it isnotthe Pearl, which started this thread.heavily discounted in the US then reseller discounts are approximately 50% of normal discount (and the gross price is halved in the offer, so net profit to pay all of the costs outlined in the thread is much lower) - henceThe reason why that product varies so significantly is that becauseit isthe difference between US and UK price of the Pearl.Regards Glenn** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ______________________________________________________________________This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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