Hi Adrian, I've had a note from Philipa at PVS about this but was previously unaware of it. We might do it as something separate as it seems to me that a direct comparison with KNFB would be an apples and oranges job given that the latter is a complete and stand-alone unit for use on the go. But thanks for the tip-off. ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Higginbotham Sent: 02 August 2006 11:14 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: TALKING PICTURES (and In Touch 1st August) and everything Ian - if looking at portable ocr solutions will you also be reviewing the new ocr module for the magnilink cctv range which as I understand it as well as functioning as a starndard cctv for near or distance work can also be used by a total for ocr of any doctype. the magnilink is a usb camera with ocr onboard so by plugging it in to our laptop you can have audio access to any printed material. no need for ocr software on the pc, it's in the camera. I believe the price is not dissimilar to the nfb reader but you have the processor power of your laptop and also the added abilities to ocr work which is further away or use the cctv functions too. Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility and inclusion adviser British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287 Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 02 August 2006 09:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: TALKING PICTURES (and In Touch 1st August) and everything Ray, the current plan is that next week there'll be an overview of PDA options including a look at the new Nano, and the week after there'll be a look at the KNFB reader with Mervin Robertson of S&S. What with that and last night, what were people saying about In Touch not doing enough techy stuff? ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 02 August 2006 09:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: TALKING PICTURES (and In Touch 1st August) and everything Some interesting thoughts indeed re. incorporating the KNFB software on a mobile phone platform, though we''ll have to waite a few years for that. I was expecting from yesterday's post we'd hear something last night about KNFB but we didn't. May well be I got it wrong, and, come to think of it, I'm not sure Ian actually said it would be featured last night, but is it coming up next week? That is, BBC confidentiality and all that permitting. Still, the woman at the end of the prog talking about her mobile as a replacement for a voice mate type gadget was interesting in itself. The Mobile as genral purpose mobility/notetaking/reading aid? If I may be allowed to drift a little here - as I do so often - navigation and orientation to places of interest would seem to be the way to go. Here in Birmingham though we have what I regard as a naff experiment, and a waiste of a good deal of money too - on an experiment of mounting speakers on poles or lampposts and a blinky waving a fob-like device about for the speaker to announce the presence of a shopping centre or whatever. Is this the way forward? (Not to be confused with the guide dog command of the same name.) Quite how professional and highly paid people get to indulge these whims is quite beyond me. When a friend pointed out that the speaking of info should be attached to the person, not the environment, he was roundly ignored for his comment. The professional way seems to be to deaf out the blind and do what ever daft, or maybe even sensible, thing enters your mind. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Just had a look at the KNFB portable reader and it's very impressive. However, a sighted colleague has raised an interesting point. If we have phones which can talk and which have cameras on them, how long will it be and what would it take before they can do the same thing at a much smaller cost? Any thoughts? http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. 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