Mary Baisez is right re. the technical interest of the interview with Inventor Ray Kurzweil which, to repeat the link, is at: http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?AD=1&ArticleID=12979 Apart from the theme of this discussion around OCR and the challenge of portable OCR, there is some discussion of the development of sampled instruments including a realistic grand piano. No one can deny the brilliance of the man and the staff in his development company. In fairness to myself I never did underestimate the complexity of developing software to deal with the real problems of scanning books and other uneven surfaces. (Anyone who has tried doing this with a flatbed scanner should know about this problem.) At the end of this message I've pasted in the only article so far downloadable from Blindcooltech on this put up last June. I believe Tristram was arguing that better this product be brought to market even at this price than not at all - I hope I represent his view properly. In a way I'm not so sure, for while I don't want to evoke images of babies disappearing along with the bath water I wonder still whether part of the design criteria should have been a more affordable price. It seems what we have hear is a device that will be within the means of better financially placed blind people, rather in the image of those I imagine run NFB. (I made a similar point re. the recently introduced TV (sound only) Freeview media centre recently wondering if that should have been brought to market at the price being asked.) I do take to heart Tristram's comment re. the Pure talking radio. It is disappointing that many blind folk seem unwilling to pay even this small premium for something that is obviously so much better than making do with a non-talking DAB radio. I have much the same feeling around attitudes towards the talking microwave oven where unfair comparisons are made with High Street prices. Some blind folk can be mean. I hope, I'm not in that catagory, and I don't think I am. If too, as I suspect, there is a business ethic alongside a charitable one of helping fund this product development by Kurzweil Inc. then it could well be that a small return for NFB is envisaged along with the returns demanded by distributors. All this points, I think, to the business model for such investment being happy with the notion of supplying the relatively few who can afford such prices, rather than the many who cannot but, nonetheless would certainly benefit in their everyday lives from such an obviously useful device which meets a long felt need. What is the alternative? Well, in truly 80s style, some will say 'there is no alternative'. I think there is, or should be. Charities should be more what they claim to be rather than settling to cater to those with more disposable incomes. The Bill Gates Foundation - if that's what its called, might appear to be the ideal funder of such a project for not for profit sale and distribution. I believe though that this charity is focused on third world help as much, if not more, than the needs of less well placed disabled people and others in the developed world. So what of our traditional charities? Its possible to imagine, that a consortium of charities in various countries could have helped finance and distribute what is now KNFB Reader; possible to imagine, but not so easily realised given the labyrinthine committee structure of such organisations, not to mention national interests. Still, one possibility would be a charity consortium spun-off company to do the development work, and so much of the cost is in the initial development, rather than production. This is really a plea suggestion that if charities are becoming focused on maintaining and increasing income in a business manner, they should think again about the majority of those they are serving rather than those I think they most often come into contact with, people much like the prime movers in charity organisation who have no problems in acquiring such obviously useful, but highly priced, equipment. So, for those who want to hear more about the present state of development of KNFB Reader - well, as of a couple of months back - then take a listen to the BCT article which follows. KNFB Reader 5/20/2006 Angie Matney demonstrates this portable scanning system that lets you read a variety of material with a device you can carry with you at all times. Based on a digital camera and a PDA, the Kurzweil/National Federation of the Blind Reader employs optical character recognition and intelligence to "straighten" images that may be flawed by, for example, the curve in the open pages of a book. 18.7 MB http://blindcooltech.xplorations.net/bct678KNFBReader.mp3 From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq