Hi. Yes that does happen quite often. It can also be as little as 10 minutes at Sight Village and their mind is made up! I'm just pleased I can use both operating systems as It gives me far more choice when it comes to investing in a phone or tablet. On 06/11/2014, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > I agree and I do have both operating systems. > > The problem I have is with these bloggers who have used iOS for years, come > to Android for a week and say it doesn't work like they want it to. Well > obviously it wouldn't as the OS is different. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Saqib Hussain > Sent: 06 November 2014 09:08 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Switching from iOS to Android > > Thanks Steve. It's always better to learn another OS instead of > brushing it off before giving it a good run out. > > On 05/11/2014, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi Saqib, >> >> This is a very good analysis. Thank you. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -- >> Computer Room Services >> 77 Exeter Close >> Stevenage >> Hertfordshire >> SG1 4PW >> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of >> Saqib Hussain >> Sent: 04 November 2014 09:51 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Switching from iOS to Android >> >> Hi. I grasped it in a couple of weeks despite my reservations about >> the platform as I had a bad experience with a tablet which was running >> an earlier version which was 4.0 and that was down to me not doing my >> research before purchasing the tablet which was cheap and cheap and >> chearful won't give you a good experience in any walk of life. I >> started out with the Samsung Tab 3 and I enjoyed the learning >> experience and I never at any point fell in to the trap of comparing >> it to IOS and this is the biggest mistake people make. When people >> start expecting an Android device to work like an IOS device then you >> may as well put down the device and go back to IOS as you will >> struggle to learn Android. I then moved on to the Google Nexus 7 2013 >> and then felt confident enough to use an Android phone and I then >> invested in a Samsung Galaxy S4. I also have my iPhone 5S but I use it >> for apps like BllindSquare. Over in the US the NFB have a app called >> Near By explorer and I only wish the RNIB would get involved in such a >> project for VI Android users in the UK as they did with the Sendero >> Look Around app on the IOS platform. I like the large screen form >> factor and I also think obtaining such a device is far cheaper than >> purchasing the iPhone 6 Plus. I think the Youtube app works much >> better for me on Android as I struggle with it on IOS. Voiceover seems >> to have focus issues within the Youtube app. I've also discovered that >> dictation works much better for me on Android as I have far better >> results. I much prefer Samsung devices to any other device on the >> Android platform as it gives me the ability to invert colours and you >> can use triple tap of the home key to toggle Talkback on and off along >> with other accessibility features. Moving icons is easy and Talkback >> will announce the row and column that you are moving an icon to just >> like the iPhone. You don't have to pay an extra £70 to get an extra >> 16GB of storage as that's what apple will charge you as you can buy >> 16GB cards for around £10 if you shop around carefully. Android does >> work and is accessible enough for anyone and just like IOS! It may >> have bugs. The enphases is more on touch and explore rather than swipe >> and tap. I have found that this method is far quicker for locating >> items as swipe and tap reminds me of a blindman looking for something >> on a floor and eventually he will find it after covering the full area >> of a room. >> >> On 03/11/2014, Tony Sweeney <tonymsweeney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Steve, >>> >>> Could you please let us have that Talkback link to the tutorial? >>> >>> You would indeed need assist certainly in getting Talkback enabled, >>> IMHO.! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Tony Sweeney >>> On 02/11/2014 19:55, Steve Nutt wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> You don't need a sighted person to show you round the screen. That >>>> would defeat the point of accessibility. The Talkback tutorial is >>>> very good. >>>> >>>> All the best >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Computer Room Services >>>> >>>> 77 Exeter Close >>>> >>>> Stevenage >>>> >>>> Hertfordshire >>>> >>>> SG1 4PW >>>> >>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>>> >>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>>> >>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>>> >>>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> >>>> >>>> *From:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Tony Sweeney >>>> *Sent:* 02 November 2014 19:38 >>>> *To:* access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> *Subject:* [access-uk] Re: Switching from iOS to Android >>>> >>>> Hi Carol, >>>> >>>> See from the subject line that you may be already an IOS user so if so >>>> I'd imagine that you'd have no problem doing the jump. >>>> >>>> I very recently took the jump for the first time in to the tabblet >>>> world and bought an Android tablet through the good offices of Mo. >>>> >>>> He customised it for me including of course enabling talkback. >>>> >>>> You may need a sighted person showing you around the screen >>>> >>>> for a start but I'm sure someone could talk you through anyway. >>>> >>>> So far with a keyboard I have learnt the Recents in TuneIn, the >>>> internet radio being the main reason for buyintg the tablet whilst out >>>> and about. >>>> >>>> I have an IT trainer coming in a couple of weeks so am confident of >>>> getting there with the technology and of course there are a number of >>>> good podcasts available too. >>>> >>>> I'm finding it a bit of a challenge doing all of that swiping/tapping >>>> thing but practice and patience I guess will get us there. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Tony Sweeney >>>> On 02/11/2014 16:51, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's a very informative article, Steve. Thanks for posting. >>>> >>>> I do get tempted sometimes but feel that maybe the learning curve >>>> is a bit too much for me now. If you, or anyone else able, would >>>> like to conduct some lessons for newbies, I could be interested >>>> and get myself a reasonable, fairly inexpensive Android and give >>>> it a try! >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> *From:*Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> *To:*access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> ; 'BCAB Discussion List' <mailto:bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> *Sent:*Sunday, November 02, 2014 10:31 AM >>>> >>>> *Subject:*[access-uk] Switching from iOS to Android >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> For those who wanted more info about Android, this is a good >>>> article to read if you are on an iShiny and considering the >>>> jump. >>>> >>>> http://inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/switching-ios-android >>>> >>>> All the best >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Computer Room Services >>>> >>>> 77 Exeter Close >>>> >>>> Stevenage >>>> >>>> Hertfordshire >>>> >>>> SG1 4PW >>>> >>>> Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 >>>> >>>> Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 >>>> >>>> Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 >>>> >>>> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You can find me on Twitter @Saq5000 and Skype Saq5000 >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> > > > -- > You can find me on Twitter @Saq5000 and Skype Saq5000 > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > -- You can find me on Twitter @Saq5000 and Skype Saq5000 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq