[access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent
- From: "Kirsten Edmondson" <keaedmondson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:39:05 -0000
originally I asked the question: a queston which I needed a considered
response. I have had a response, which I accept and take on board, however,
I do NOT appreciate the way it has been addressed, with people valuing their
own opinions rather than facts on here today.
Brendon and Colin thank you for your answers, but perhaps you could consider
how you put things in the future.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent
> Kirsten,
>
> I feel that your accusation towards Brendan and his comments were
> ungrounded. Your presumption that we as tax payers should fund your
> employers oblidations to continue to ensure that you are not at a
> disadvantage compared with others for whom a similar reason would not
> arise
> are preposterous, and is evidence of the ignorance and systemic abuse of
> the
> whole Access to work scheme by both employers and employees alike.
>
> As Brendan said it is extremely unlikely that upgrades are so critical as
> to
> leave you at a substantial disadvantage compared with your colleagues, and
> as you are entitled to a review of your support from Access to Work every
> three years, I doubt very much whether the fact that you have a
> reasonable
> adjustment that is not being upgraded every time a new version becomes
> available would be considered to be treating you at a disadvantage or a
> reasonable demand.
>
> Perhaps I could suggest that rather than you feeling aggrieved by comments
> made by those that work as professionals within this field you approach
> your
> employer and make a case for them in funding any necessary upgrades
> similar
> to how they would fund upgrades to their BCM software for the business.
>
> If then, failing approval by your employer to fund these upgrades you
> still feel aggrieved you will have the option to consider a case of
> discrimination relating to your disability. You may indeed have a case for
> being treated more favourably than persons for whom a similar reason would
> not apply, but be realistic your employer should fund your reasonable
> adjustments - they have a duty to do so under the Disability
> Discrimination
> Act 1995 and as I also suspect that your employer may also have a General
> &
> Specific duty to ensure that Disability Equality is addressed in the way
> they conduct themselves towards their employers who identify as being a
> person with a disability, they may also feel uncomfortable from that
> aspect
> of the legislation DDA 2005.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Colin Fowler
> Disability Consultant
> www.social-model.org.uk
> Telephone: 01582 483 283
> Text/Mobile: 07793 111 253
> E mail: col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirsten Edmondson" <keaedmondson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 3:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent
>
>
>> Actually I haven't got it out of the box, because I haven't yet been
>> supplied with a computer to put it on! and no ... the company will be
>> charging me £190 to upgrade as ATW were stupid enough not to get me an
>> SMA!
>> So don't just make ridiculous assumptions when you know nothing about my
>> situation!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brendan Magill" <brendan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 1:59 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Stolen Braillenote tangent
>>
>>
>>> Hi Barry, Kirsten and everyone,
>>>
>>> Barry, the paragraphs I quoted are not available on the Web, they are
>>> from an AtW internal document which defines the whole of AtW in some 160
>>> pages. I've been fortunate enough to be able to acquire a copy of this,
>>> because of the work which I do, though I had to sell my soul to get it.
>>> That's why you couldn't find it with Google!
>>>
>>> As for equipment eventually wearing out or becoming obsolete over an
>>> extended period of time, there should be no problem in AtW funding a
>>> replacement. It is recognized that technology does move on and that
>>> jobs change as a consequence, so if there's any problem then you need to
>>> make a fresh application to AtW on the basis that your working situation
>>> has changed as a result of changes in technology over time.
>>>
>>> Kirsten, the query you raise is unlikely to be of real significance.
>>> Firstly, changes from one version to the next are rarely so critical
>>> that one cannot function with the older version. Secondly, if a new
>>> version comes out so quickly after you've acquired the older one, most
>>> suppliers will have a free upgrade policy which should cover you.
>>> Thirdly, if you haven't got it out of the box within four weeks of
>>> receiving it, you probably don't need it anyway.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Brendan.
>>>
>>> --
>>> BRENDAN MAGILL
>>> Business, Employment &
>>> Disability Consultancy
>>>
>>> 8 York Place
>>> Worcester
>>> WR1 3DR
>>> England
>>>
>>> Phone: +44 (0)1905 28286
>>> Fax: +44 (0)870 127 7856
>>>
>>> Web: www.magill.co.uk
>>>
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