[access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u 2

From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:27:21 +0100
Hi Carol,

No delay at all any more.  Bluetooth 4 is very fast.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 21 August 2014 15:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u
2

Hi Steve,

Surely though there's always more of a delay if you are using a display, or
even Braille Sense, connected because of the fact that it is connected and
not an integral part of the phone.

Unfortunately I never really got on with the terminology or something like
that when I went through the Esys manual. Perhaps I should read it again.

I'd love to be convinced. Perhaps we should take it off list!:)

Carol P


----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:  access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
CC: 
Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 9.45 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u
2

>
>
> Hi Paul,
> 
> They won't.  That's because people are still buying that old tech.  If
they
> weren't then the vendors would have to think again.
> 
> I can type just as speedily into my iPhone or android phone with my Esys
12
> or 40 connected to it.  The fact that it is one device is no matter, since
I
> always have one of those phones with me anyway.
> 
> I think the only thing that is faster about those note takers now is
instant
> on.  That is to say turn it on and go.  You can almost do that now with
> iPhone and Andropid but if you get a Bluetooth glitch then I agree, it
could
> slow you up a bit, but not significantly.
> 
> If you have an iPhone or Android phone, you should seriously play with
> connecting it to your existing note taker.  you will be surprised at how
> well it works.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> paul leake
> Sent: 19 August 2014 17.20
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the
u
> 2
> 
> Well Steve, blinkered in the sense that when something new comes 
> on the scene it think it's perfect and reject what's gone before 
> out of hand.
> 
> I'm not convinced that I could interview people and produce
> written material as speedily using a braille displayand phoneo or 
> ipad inserting headings and different fonts but I'm happy to be 
> corrected.
> 
> I'd happily change if I knew it would do the trick but having 
> just one device has its advantages for portability and quietness 
> of working.
> 
> I agree it's old technology and they need to get their act 
> together and coming up with something more versatile.  I don't 
> know that they will though!
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul
>  Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: ";Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17.08.45 60100
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
> twitter on the u 2
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What kind of blinkers are you talking of?  In what way is a 
> specialist note
> taker more efficient than connecting a Braille display to an iOS 
> or Android
> device, which has much more power anyway?
> 
> Now we have AccessNote for iOS, that is a very efficient way of 
> doing
> things.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of
> paul leake
> Sent: 19 August 2014 16.44
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
> twitter on the u
> 2
> 
> My point is still valid in itself whether you were discussing
> that or not Steve! Of course it's old technology but it still
> surprisingly meet is function in certain circumstances.  Take off
> your blinkers! (smile)
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul
>  Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: ";Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16.26.45 60100
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
> twitter on the u 2
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't think that's what we're discussing.  My argument is that
> considering
> the amount you pay for these devices, they are basically based on
> 1990's
> software.  Windows CE on which all of the note takers are based,
> will lose
> Microsoft support in about 2016 anyway so it's academic.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Steve
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> paul leake
> Sent: 18 August 2014 21.27
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
> twitter on the u
> 2
> 
> Different devices work better in different circumstances don't
> they?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul
>  Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10.04.33 60100
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
> twitter on the u 2
> 
> Hi John, Steve et al
> 
> There are advantages and disadvantages to using a touchscreen
> device versus
> a bespoke note-taker.  For me, the advantages of an iOS or
> Android device
> are universal updates, more choice, size and cost.  The
> advantages of a
> dedicated note-taker are quick access to features like word
> processing, one
> unit instead of two to carry around, and better battery life.
> 
> I like a mix of both to be honest, perhaps some old habits die
> hard?
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> Emails: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
> thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> john gallagher
> Sent: 18 August 2014 09.09
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
> twitter on the u
> 2
> 
> agree steve as progress is made in main stream the dedicated
> devices get
> left behind every time.  the only thing i really love about the
> sense is the
> satnav and the ability to write out a document very small device
> with good
> braille.  the internet on the us 2 is very fast but very
> restricted so wonder
> which would be the best way to go.  the other plus with a
> dedicated device is
> batry life.  but say tellorion got loads more apps if also it
> could run on
> more devices but again you must then use a phone and a braille
> device but i
> do feel the life of a notetaker for the blind is very much in the
> late
> summer so to speak.
> 
> i do know now that i am using my iphone and the tellorion lots
> more than my
> pc.  this could spark a very big long debate on this topic but
> yet a very
> very important one.  again the big advantage with a dedicated
> braille
> notetaker is the writing down in braille is so much faster than
> on a touch
> screen.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, 17 August 2014 11.01 pm
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi Chris,
> 
>  Not only that, the Twitter clients on these dedicated devices is
> so
>  primitive.  No muting, no filtering, I could go on, but I won't
> <Smile>.
> But
>  you pay thousands for these devices and get second rate software
> on them.
> 
>  All the best
> 
>  Steve
> 
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> Of
>  Christopher Hallsworth
>  Sent: 17 August 2014 20.56
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2
> 
>  Sounds like I agree with you Steve so let us both rant smile.
> 
>  Christopher Hallsworth
>  Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>  www.hadley.edu
> 
>  On 17/08/2014 19.38, Steve Nutt wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  This is why I don't like these darned dedicated devices.  If
> Twitter
> gets
>  up
>  the spout on a phone or tablet, you'll get an update in hours,
> not days.
> 
>  Rant over.
> 
>  All the best
> 
>  Steve
> 
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
>  Of
>  Jackie Brown
>  Sent: 16 August 2014 20.42
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2
> 
>  Hi John
> 
>  Yes it is up the spout again!! I will let them know about it on
> Monday.
> I
>  think they must be working on my retweet problem! (smile).
> 
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  Jackie Brown
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date: Saturday, 16 August 2014 19.58
>  Subject: [access-uk] twitter on the u 2
> 
>  0was
>  0was hi there ian or jacky just wonder if you're twitter workis
> on the u 2
>  just
>  tried it and it says no message it does work on the iphone
> though i have
>  done a reset that's a major one but still the same result.
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