[access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u 2

  • From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:39:08 +0100

Hi Steve

Don't you take customer details down on a note-taker any more then like you
used to?  I still believe there is room for both, and I suppose it is a case
of what works best for you.  I am lucky to have the luxury of both, so when
I need Braille on my iOS device, it is there.  And when I prefer a dedicated
note-taker, I have it as well.


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 20 August 2014 08:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u
2

Hi,

I have a different use case so it wouldn't affect me.  I do all my
formatting on the PC, so I can see where you're coming from.  Those
wordprocessors in note takers have always been limited in my view anyway.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
paul leake
Sent: 19 August 2014 22:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u
2

The main thing is that I use different templates forvarious 
documents I need to complete in a work context and these include 
headings and boldface etc.  The apex ensures I can complete in 
contracted braille for later translating and then sending in Word 
format.  I can't envisage this being quite so straight forward 
using a display with an I device.  Wh't's your view?

TIA.

Kind regards,

Paul
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:45:54 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
twitter on the u 2

Hi Paul,

They won't.  That's because people are still buying that old 
tech.  If they
weren't then the vendors would have to think again.

I can type just as speedily into my iPhone or android phone with 
my Esys 12
or 40 connected to it.  The fact that it is one device is no 
matter, since I
always have one of those phones with me anyway.

I think the only thing that is faster about those note takers now 
is instant
on.  That is to say turn it on and go.  You can almost do that 
now with
iPhone and Andropid but if you get a Bluetooth glitch then I 
agree, it could
slow you up a bit, but not significantly.

If you have an iPhone or Android phone, you should seriously play 
with
connecting it to your existing note taker.  you will be surprised 
at how
well it works.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of
paul leake
Sent: 19 August 2014 17:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
twitter on the u
2

Well Steve, blinkered in the sense that when something new comes
on the scene it think it's perfect and reject what's gone before
out of hand.

I'm not convinced that I could interview people and produce
written material as speedily using a braille displayand phoneo or
ipad inserting headings and different fonts but I'm happy to be
corrected.

I'd happily change if I knew it would do the trick but having
just one device has its advantages for portability and quietness
of working.

I agree it's old technology and they need to get their act
together and coming up with something more versatile.  I don't
know that they will though!
Kind regards,

Paul
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17:08:45 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u 2

Hi,

What kind of blinkers are you talking of?  In what way is a
specialist note
taker more efficient than connecting a Braille display to an iOS
or Android
device, which has much more power anyway?

Now we have AccessNote for iOS, that is a very efficient way of
doing
things.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
paul leake
Sent: 19 August 2014 16:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u
2

My point is still valid in itself whether you were discussing
that or not Steve! Of course it's old technology but it still
surprisingly meet is function in certain circumstances.  Take off
your blinkers! (smile)

Kind regards,

Paul
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:26:45 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u 2

Hi,

I don't think that's what we're discussing.  My argument is that
considering
the amount you pay for these devices, they are basically based on
1990's
software.  Windows CE on which all of the note takers are based,
will lose
Microsoft support in about 2016 anyway so it's academic.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
paul leake
Sent: 18 August 2014 21:27
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u
2

Different devices work better in different circumstances don't
they?

Kind regards,

Paul
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10:04:33 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u 2

Hi John, Steve et al

There are advantages and disadvantages to using a touchscreen
device versus
a bespoke note-taker.  For me, the advantages of an iOS or
Android device
are universal updates, more choice, size and cost.  The
advantages of a
dedicated note-taker are quick access to features like word
processing, one
unit instead of two to carry around, and better battery life.

I like a mix of both to be honest, perhaps some old habits die
hard?


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
john gallagher
Sent: 18 August 2014 09:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u
2

agree steve as progress is made in main stream the dedicated
devices get
left behind every time.  the only thing i really love about the
sense is the
satnav and the ability to write out a document very small device
with good
braille.  the internet on the us 2 is very fast but very
restricted so wonder
which would be the best way to go.  the other plus with a
dedicated device is
batry life.  but say tellorion got loads more apps if also it
could run on
more devices but again you must then use a phone and a braille
device but i
do feel the life of a notetaker for the blind is very much in the
late
summer so to speak.

i do know now that i am using my iphone and the tellorion lots
more than my
pc.  this could spark a very big long debate on this topic but
yet a very
very important one.  again the big advantage with a dedicated
braille
notetaker is the writing down in braille is so much faster than
on a touch
screen.

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, 17 August 2014 11.01 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2



 Hi Chris,

 Not only that, the Twitter clients on these dedicated devices is
so
 primitive.  No muting, no filtering, I could go on, but I won't
<Smile>.
But
 you pay thousands for these devices and get second rate software
on them.

 All the best

 Steve

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 -----Original Message-----
 From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
Of
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: 17 August 2014 20.56
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2

 Sounds like I agree with you Steve so let us both rant smile.

 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu

 On 17/08/2014 19.38, Steve Nutt wrote:
 Hi,

 This is why I don't like these darned dedicated devices.  If
Twitter
gets
 up
 the spout on a phone or tablet, you'll get an update in hours,
not days.

 Rant over.

 All the best

 Steve

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 -----Original Message-----
 From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
 Of
 Jackie Brown
 Sent: 16 August 2014 20.42
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2

 Hi John

 Yes it is up the spout again!! I will let them know about it on
Monday.
I
 think they must be working on my retweet problem! (smile).

 Kind regards,

 Jackie Brown

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date: Saturday, 16 August 2014 19.58
 Subject: [access-uk] twitter on the u 2

 0was
 0was hi there ian or jacky just wonder if you're twitter workis
on the u 2
 just
 tried it and it says no message it does work on the iphone
though i have
 done a reset that's a major one but still the same result.
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