[access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u 2

From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:49:01 +0100
Hi,

Wow that brings back memories.  The Eureka was way ahead of its time.  I
loved the Basic program interpreter built into it.  Geoff Shang, an
Australian, wrote a great game for it called Aliens when he was about 17.

Try that on a Braille Sense. <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
paul leake
Sent: 19 August 2014 20:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u
2

I didn't know the Eureka device Richard, that's going back a long 
way isn't it?

Kind regards,

Paul
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" 
<lists.godfrey-mckay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:19:11 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
twitter on the u 2

And I'd add that, although I don't use specialist devices these 
days, in my
experience, of those I have used, you couldn't beat Eureka for 
lay-out,
feedback etc.




Richard

Richard Godfrey-McKay

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of
paul leake
Sent: 19 August 2014 19:05
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
twitter on the u
2

That's exactly it Jackie.

Kind regards,

Paul
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 ----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:44:17 +0100
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u 2

As I say, there are merits for both.  I had occasion to write 
something down
this afternoon which a friend of ours read to me from a piece of 
paper
containing print and handwriting.  My Sense was at hand to do 
this.  I
couldn't have written down the info anywhere near as quickly 
using an iPhone
or iPad, and if I had got my Bluetooth keyboard out to write on 
that, it
would still have taken longer to pair it than using my 
immediately available
Sense.  So while I agree the technology is old, there is really 
no
substitute for a specialist device in situations such as I have 
described
above.  They have their place, but they need to come down in 
price, and have
better beta testing.

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown

----- Original Message -----
From: paul leake <paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17.21
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
twitter on the u 2



 Well Steve, blinkered in the sense that when something new comes  
on the
scene it think it's perfect and reject what's gone before  out of 
hand.

 I'm not convinced that I could interview people and produce  
written
material as speedily using a braille displayand phoneo or  ipad 
inserting
headings and different fonts but I'm happy to be  corrected.

 I'd happily change if I knew it would do the trick but having  
just one
device has its advantages for portability and quietness  of 
working.

 I agree it's old technology and they need to get their act  
together and
coming up with something more versatile.  I don't  know that they 
will
though!
 Kind regards,

 Paul
  Twitter: @paulleake1

 paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: ";Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17.08.45 60100
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
 twitter on the u 2

 Hi,

 What kind of blinkers are you talking of?  In what way is a  
specialist
note  taker more efficient than connecting a Braille display to 
an iOS  or
Android  device, which has much more power anyway?

 Now we have AccessNote for iOS, that is a very efficient way of  
doing
things.

 All the best

 Steve

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 -----Original Message-----
 From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On  Behalf
Of  paul leake
 Sent: 19 August 2014 16.44
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
 twitter on the u
 2

 My point is still valid in itself whether you were discussing  
that or not
Steve! Of course it's old technology but it still  surprisingly 
meet is
function in certain circumstances.  Take off  your blinkers! 
(smile)

 Kind regards,

 Paul
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  ----- Original Message -----
 From: ";Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16.26.45 60100
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
 twitter on the u 2

 Hi,

 I don't think that's what we're discussing.  My argument is that
considering  the amount you pay for these devices, they are 
basically based
on  1990's  software.  Windows CE on which all of the note takers 
are based,
will lose  Microsoft support in about 2016 anyway so it's 
academic.

 All the best

 Steve

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 -----Original Message-----
 From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On  Behalf
Of  paul leake
 Sent: 18 August 2014 21.27
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
 twitter on the u
 2

 Different devices work better in different circumstances don't  
they?

 Kind regards,

 Paul
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 paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
 To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10.04.33 60100
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
 twitter on the u 2

 Hi John, Steve et al

 There are advantages and disadvantages to using a touchscreen  
device
versus  a bespoke note-taker.  For me, the advantages of an iOS 
or  Android
device  are universal updates, more choice, size and cost.  The  
advantages
of a  dedicated note-taker are quick access to features like word
processing, one  unit instead of two to carry around, and better 
battery
life.

 I like a mix of both to be honest, perhaps some old habits die  
hard?


 Kind regards,

 Jackie Brown
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 -----Original Message-----
 From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On  Behalf
Of  john gallagher
 Sent: 18 August 2014 09.09
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
 twitter on the u
 2

 agree steve as progress is made in main stream the dedicated  
devices get
left behind every time.  the only thing i really love about the  
sense is
the  satnav and the ability to write out a document very small 
device  with
good  braille.  the internet on the us 2 is very fast but very  
restricted
so wonder  which would be the best way to go.  the other plus 
with a
dedicated device is  batry life.  but say tellorion got loads 
more apps if
also it  could run on  more devices but again you must then use a 
phone and
a braille  device but i  do feel the life of a notetaker for the 
blind is
very much in the  late  summer so to speak.

 i do know now that i am using my iphone and the tellorion lots  
more than
my  pc.  this could spark a very big long debate on this topic 
but  yet a
very  very important one.  again the big advantage with a 
dedicated  braille
notetaker is the writing down in braille is so much faster than  
on a touch
screen.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date: Sunday, 17 August 2014 11.01 pm
 Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2



  Hi Chris,

  Not only that, the Twitter clients on these dedicated devices 
is  so
  primitive.  No muting, no filtering, I could go on, but I won't  
<Smile>.
 But
  you pay thousands for these devices and get second rate 
software  on them.

  All the best

  Steve

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  
On Behalf
Of
  Christopher Hallsworth
  Sent: 17 August 2014 20.56
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2

  Sounds like I agree with you Steve so let us both rant smile.

  Christopher Hallsworth
  Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
  www.hadley.edu

  On 17/08/2014 19.38, Steve Nutt wrote:
  Hi,

  This is why I don't like these darned dedicated devices.  If  
Twitter
gets
  up
  the spout on a phone or tablet, you'll get an update in hours,  
not days.

  Rant over.

  All the best

  Steve

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  
On Behalf
  Of
  Jackie Brown
  Sent: 16 August 2014 20.42
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2

  Hi John

  Yes it is up the spout again!! I will let them know about it on  
Monday.
 I
  think they must be working on my retweet problem! (smile).

  Kind regards,

  Jackie Brown

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Date: Saturday, 16 August 2014 19.58
  Subject: [access-uk] twitter on the u 2

  0was
  0was hi there ian or jacky just wonder if you're twitter workis  
on the u
2
  just
  tried it and it says no message it does work on the iphone  
though i have
  done a reset that's a major one but still the same result.
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