Damon Here are my suggestions. In Jaws, you can switch almost everything off. Try setting Show Inline Frames, Refresh Page Automatically and everything else you can find in the verbosity dialogue off. Only switch them back on when they cause you a problem. One advantage of IE with Jaws is that you can have specific settings for particular sites, but they haven’t implemented this in Firefox sadly. If you truly want a flat web experience, like it was in 1996, Webbie is the thing for you, especially as you can switch between its text view and its IE view, and decide which it should start in. Also, make use of live bookmarks in Firefox or RSS in IE to view headlines. Then you need only visit the page for actual text. You could also search for text only or mobile site links using the links list or search feature. Cheers Dave From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Rose Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:06 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Solution to jumpy web pages? Hi there. I'm wondering if someone knows of a solution to this. Perhaps a plug-in or a Firefox extension or a cut down browser of some sort? Most often when I use the web, I use it to read pages. I don't want high functionality. The early days of the web with flat HTML pages were the best as far as I'm concerned. Oftentimes, when I go to newspaper websites or many other pages, my JAWS cursor and Braille display starts fidgeting alarmingly, it doesn't let me arrow down a page properly, it gets stuck and then during reading my cursor gets whipped away so that I have to find the text again and the point in the text where I left off … just to have the cursor whipped away all over again 30 seconds later. I imagine this is down to Flash, Air, Silverlight, or various Java, ajax, elements on a page. What I've never had the time to do is investigate this to find out which is the worst culprit and why. It's annoying that you can go to a website that is otherwise fully access complient yet there was barely any point them putting in that work if screenreaders just slip and slide over the top of it as if they were skating on ice. Before you ask, I'm working with the latest version of jaws and my computer is entirely virus and adware free. I'm writing this email today after attempting a bit of research on something and failing. I'm a little frustrated. So. How do I stop it? Do I have any kind of control over it? Turning off Flash in the verbosity settings doesn't work on many sites so obviously the issue isn't just around Flash. Or perhaps it's just my computer and every computer I've ever used. Any thoughts on how to conquer this, iether by tweaking my browser, adding plug-ins or extensions, changing browser, viewing sites thru some kind of filter site, whatever, I'm keen to hear from you. I'm getting sick of it. Thanks v much. Damon Rose Senior Content Producer bbc.co.uk/ouch BBC Vision Learning Tel: 020 8752 4427 (x0224427) email: damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx Have you heard the award-winning Ouch Podcast yet? A razor sharp disability talk show presented by Mat Fraser and Liz Carr: <file:///\\www.bbc.co.uk\ouch\podcast> www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/podcast http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.