are there any plans to make the sky box access more meaningful and usable for blind people? -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 01 February 2005 06:33 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus Hi folks, If anyone does want the manual in text format, I converted it from PDF, please Email me privately, and I'll send it out. Please put something meaningful in the subject line, like Sky Plus Manual. Thanks. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 01 February 2005 00:17 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus Hi, I too would like to know if I can get an accessible manual please. I'm getting a Sky+ very soon too! Though I haven't decided yet which digital box I'm getting. Thanks. Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: SHARON BOWELL <mailto:sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus Many thanks for all your help. We are definitely going to go ahead and get it now. My husband made some enquiries today and we will be getting an Amstrad box. I wondered if the manual was available to download on the website or anywhere. I did have a brief look, but couldn't find anything. Thanks again. Sharon -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 30 January 2005 23:04 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus Hi Amro, Thanks for re-posting that, it saved me digging it out. Sharon, if you think you would get something out of the many features of Sky Plus, then go for it Girl, it's well worth it. Just one more little nugget of information, that I didn't know until recently. Let's suppose you want to watch a programme in half an hour. You put the box on the relevant channel now, ready to watch your blockbuster. Then in three quarters of an hour, you have missed the beginning, because you forgot that it is on. How about live rewind? You go to your box, and simply hit the rewind key on the remote, and immediately you rewind live TV, just like you rewind a video tape. Yes, you get silence as you are rewinding, but you are going back. When you think you are back far enough, just hit play. If you are not far enough back, just hit rewind again, then play again. Note though, that you can only rewind the channel you are on. In other words, if you miss the beginning of a programme, and you are not on that channel, then you've had it, but if your box is on that channel, it pre-records for half an hour, so up to half an hour's worth can be rewound. This is really cool stuff. But again, if you just switch to that channel, it will only start recording from that point. Go for it Sharon, if you like TV as I do. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 30 January 2005 22:01 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus Hi Steve, I saved a message you sent sometime ago on this subject and I hope you don't mind me sending it to the group again. So, Sharon, please read below and hope you find it helpful as I certainly did, just like all Steve's contributions to this list! Nutt says: "OK, I'll try to answer this as best I can. It is accessible in that you can set up programmes for recording, play them back, set up series links, etc. What you can't do as a blind person, is to set things up way in advance. The problem is that because you can't see the EPG, you are never quite sure which programme is selected. But you can't literally jump 24 hours. So if it is now 7:00 p.m., and you want to record something tomorrow at 7:00 p.m., this is easy. But if you want to record something at, say, 12:00 A.m. and it is now 7:00 p.m., this is more tricky, simply because there is no sure way of moving from programme to programme. If you press right arrow once, you may move to the next programme, but only it would appear to me, if that programme is within the next half hour or so. If the programme is longer, for example a film, it would take two jumps to move to the next programme, and you are never sure whether you have jumped one or two programmes, because you don't see the EPG. Having said all this, if I want to "series link" coronation street, what I do is to wait until 7:00 or there abouts on the night it is on at half past, and then it is easy. You simply do this: 1. Press TV Guide. 2. Press 1 for all channels. 3. Press 103, or 963 if you want audio description and are not in London for ITV1. 4. Press right arrow once. This is because you are highlighting the current programme when you first land on the channel. So one right arrow, will take us to 7:30. 5. Hit record. 6. Hit the Series Link button. 7. Press backup, until you hear the channel you were viewing again. Now what happens is that the box will record every single episode of Coro, until you delete the series link. One final example. If you want to play back a program: 1. TV Guide. 2. Press 0 to enter the TV Planner. 3. Press the select key twice. This will play the oldest programme you have recorded. So if you want the most recent one, you would just press up arrow, then select once. If you hear silence, you know you have gone into a programme for playing. If you don't, you are on a scheduled recording, which won't play, because it hasn't been recorded yet. If you get the silent treatment, because you are in a programme, just press select or the play key to play it. So yes, it is very, very accessible, apart from the fact that we can't see the EPG. But I honestly wouldn't be without my Sky Plus box. Not only that, but the sound quality is superior to the ordinary Sky boxes." Sharon, this isn't in any way criticising you, but I think it's always a good idea to search the lists archive. You don't know what you are missing! Though I'd have to admit that I don't do it sometimes ;) Cheers, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus Hi Sharon, I am myself totally blind, and wouldn't be without my Sky Plus box. It's a bit hit and miss, but certainly reasonably accessible, except for the EPG. My wife is also blind, and we get on with it pretty well. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of SHARON BOWELL Sent: 30 January 2005 17:42 To: Access UK Subject: [access-uk] Sky Plus Hi, We are thinking of changing over our sky box to a sky plus box. I was wondering how user friendly they are, as my husband and I are both totally blind. I do have sighted children, but don't want to rely on them all the time to change a channel or record something, etc. Any guidance much appreciated. Thanks, and sorry I seem to have posted to this group rather a lot over the past week. Sharon http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. 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