[access-uk] Re: Sky Plus

  • From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:11:52 -0000

are there any plans to make the sky box access more meaningful and
usable for blind people?  
 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
        Sent: 01 February 2005 06:33
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus
        
        
        Hi folks,
         
        If anyone does want the manual in text format, I converted it
from PDF, please Email me privately, and I'll send it out.  Please put
something meaningful in the subject line, like Sky Plus Manual.
         
        Thanks.
         
        All the best
        --
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                -----Original Message-----
                From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
                Sent: 01 February 2005 00:17
                To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus
                
                
                Hi, I too would like to know if I can get an accessible
manual please. I'm getting a Sky+ very soon too! Though I haven't
decided yet which digital box I'm getting. Thanks.
                 
                Amro

                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                        From: SHARON BOWELL
<mailto:sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
                        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:23 PM
                        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus
                        
                        
                        Many thanks for all your help.
                         
                        We are definitely going to go ahead and get it
now.  My husband made some enquiries today and we will be getting an
Amstrad box.  I wondered if the manual was available to download on the
website or anywhere.  I did have a brief look, but couldn't find
anything.
                         
                        Thanks again.
                         
                        
                        Sharon 

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
                                Sent: 30 January 2005 23:04
                                To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus
                                
                                
                                Hi Amro,
                                 
                                Thanks for re-posting that, it saved me
digging it out.
                                 
                                Sharon, if you think you would get
something out of the many features of Sky Plus, then go for it Girl,
it's well worth it.
                                 
                                Just one more little nugget of
information, that I didn't know until recently.  Let's suppose you want
to watch a programme in half an hour.  You put the box on the relevant
channel now, ready to watch your blockbuster.  Then in three quarters of
an hour, you have missed the beginning, because you forgot that it is
on.  How about live rewind?  You go to your box, and simply hit the
rewind key on the remote, and immediately you rewind live TV, just like
you rewind a video tape.  Yes, you get silence as you are rewinding, but
you are going back.  When you think you are back far enough, just hit
play.  If you are not far enough back, just hit rewind again, then play
again.  Note though, that you can only rewind the channel you are on.
In other words, if you miss the beginning of a programme, and you are
not on that channel, then you've had it, but if your box is on that
channel, it pre-records for half an hour, so up to half an hour's worth
can be rewound.  This is really cool stuff.  But again, if you just
switch to that channel, it will only start recording from that point.
Go for it Sharon, if you like TV as I do.
                                 
                                All the best
                                --
                                Computer Room Services:  the long cane
for blind computer users.
                                Telephone Voice:  +44(0)1438 742286,
Fax/BBS:  +44(0)1438 759589
                                mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
                                Email:  Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk
<http://www.comproom.co.uk/>  

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
                                Sent: 30 January 2005 22:01
                                To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus
                                
                                
                                Hi Steve, I saved a message you sent
sometime ago on this subject and I hope you don't mind me sending it to
the group again. So, Sharon, please read below and hope you find it
helpful as I certainly did, just like all Steve's contributions to this
list!
                                 
                                Nutt says:
                                 
                                "OK, I'll try to answer this as best I
can.
                                 
                                It is accessible in that you can set up
programmes for recording, play them
                                back, set up series links, etc.  What
you can't do as a blind person, is to
                                set things up way in advance.  The
problem is that because you can't see the
                                EPG, you are never quite sure which
programme is selected.  But you can't
                                literally jump 24 hours.  So if it is
now 7:00 p.m., and you want to record
                                something tomorrow at 7:00 p.m., this is
easy.  But if you want to record
                                something at, say, 12:00 A.m. and it is
now 7:00 p.m., this is more tricky,
                                simply because there is no sure way of
moving from programme to programme.
                                If you press right arrow once, you may
move to the next programme, but only
                                it would appear to me, if that programme
is within the next half hour or so.
                                If the programme is longer, for example
a film, it would take two jumps to
                                move to the next programme, and you are
never sure whether you have jumped
                                one or two programmes, because you don't
see the EPG.
                                 
                                Having said all this, if I want to
"series link" coronation street, what I
                                do is to wait until 7:00 or there abouts
on the night it is on at half past,
                                and then it is easy.  You simply do
this:
                                 
                                1.  Press TV Guide.
                                 
                                2.  Press 1 for all channels.
                                 
                                3.  Press 103, or 963 if you want audio
description and are not in London
                                for ITV1.
                                 
                                4.  Press right arrow once.  This is
because you are highlighting the
                                current programme when you first land on
the channel.  So one right arrow,
                                will take us to 7:30.
                                 
                                5.  Hit record.
                                 
                                6.  Hit the Series Link button.
                                 
                                7.  Press backup, until you hear the
channel you were viewing again.
                                 
                                Now what happens is that the box will
record every single episode of Coro,
                                until you delete the series link.
                                 
                                One final example.  If you want to play
back a program:
                                 
                                1.  TV Guide.
                                 
                                2.  Press 0 to enter the TV Planner.
                                 
                                3.  Press the select key twice.
                                 
                                This will play the oldest programme you
have recorded.  So if you want the
                                most recent one, you would just press up
arrow, then select once.  If you
                                hear silence, you know you have gone
into a programme for playing.  If you
                                don't, you are on a scheduled recording,
which won't play, because it hasn't
                                been recorded yet.  If you get the
silent treatment, because you are in a
                                programme, just press select or the play
key to play it.
                                 
                                So yes, it is very, very accessible,
apart from the fact that we can't see
                                the EPG.  But I honestly wouldn't be
without my Sky Plus box.  Not only
                                that, but the sound quality is superior
to the ordinary Sky boxes."
                                 
                                Sharon, this isn't in any way
criticising you, but I think it's always a good idea to search the lists
archive. You don't know what you are missing! Though I'd have to admit
that I don't do it sometimes ;)
                                 
                                Cheers,
                                 
                                Amro

                                ----- Original Message ----- 
                                From: Steve Nutt
<mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
                                To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                                Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:01 PM
                                Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Plus
                                
                                
                                Hi Sharon,
                                 
                                I am myself totally blind, and wouldn't
be without my Sky Plus box.  It's a bit hit and miss, but certainly
reasonably accessible, except for the EPG.  My wife is also blind, and
we get on with it pretty well.
                                 
                                All the best
                                --
                                Computer Room Services:  the long cane
for blind computer users.
                                Telephone Voice:  +44(0)1438 742286,
Fax/BBS:  +44(0)1438 759589
                                mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
                                Email:  Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk
<http://www.comproom.co.uk/>  

                                 
                                 -----Original Message-----
                                From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of SHARON BOWELL
                                Sent: 30 January 2005 17:42
                                To: Access UK
                                Subject: [access-uk] Sky Plus
                                
                                
                                Hi,
                                 
                                We are thinking of changing over our sky
box to a sky plus box.
                                 
                                I was wondering how user friendly they
are, as my husband and I are both totally blind.  I do have sighted
children, but don't want to rely on them all the time to change a
channel or record something, etc.
                                 
                                Any guidance much appreciated.
                                 
                                Thanks, and sorry I seem to have posted
to this group rather a lot over the past week.
                                 
                                Sharon 


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