Barry, don't kknow, I remember this being mentioned some time ago as an issue but I forgot to ask outright if they had fixed it. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "PossAble Consultancy" <lister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight village review 2 > Hi Gary, > Quick question, the Bat Cane, originally one significant issue was that you had to be walking fairly slowly for it to work, is that still the case? I'm a bit of a bull in a china shop merchant... > > Barry G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Robinson > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:08 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Sight village review 2 > > > Hi all, > I was at Sight village on Tuesday so I'll chip in with some of what I saw > and heard. > firstly like Ray I have mixed feelings about the venue. There were open > spaces but where it mattered there was still the usual scrum around the > stands which were cramped. I must admit even my guide found it difficult to > find out which stand was which. > I arrived very early on the tuesday and managed to meet with several people > outside the normal stand area to get the latest information/demo. > So here goes... > Jaws, I had a long chat with Eric Damery and sat in on one of the two > presentations which like the Window eyes one were I thought on the low key > side especially for Eric. > The hard facts, Jaws 5.1 (free) will be released at the beginning of August > all things being equal. Interestingly though Eric was using a beta Jaws 6 > for his demo, this is expected in sept/october pretty much as usual. The > much trumpeted internet authorised version will ship to new users at this > stage. > New features, well not really, Eric spoke and emonstrated very effectively > the use of HTML place markers(they came in in Jaws 5) you can get Jaws to > automatically speak lines of interest on an HTML page or "virtualise" i.e > put the line into a virtual buffer you can read at will. In 5.1 you will be > able to export the place markers you have set up for web pages > and give them to a fellow Jaws user to make a particular site or HTML > application more user friendly, this isn't affected by screen colour or resolution settings. > I spent most of my time talking to Eric > about Citrix access, which is also coming last quarter this year, but I > suspect this will be of limited interest to listers so I will not cover it > here. > Ultracane, also known as the bat cane or ultrasonic long cane I along with many > others saw it last year in prototype form, but now it's here for real. The > current production version has a much better formed handle and very clear > vibrating pins, one giving feedback from the upward pointing bean and the > other from the front/downward pointing beam. I tried it out within the > somewhat hostile environment of the exhibition hall and was pleasantly > surprised at just how effective it was. You can adjust the range acording > to how cluttered the environment you are working within is and I was able to > clearly pick out the door opening in a wall from several metres away as well > as people and most usefully overhanging objects. The downside is that it is > nearly £400 not cheap by any standard. > Mobile phones, by chance I happened to be at the same hotel as Thorsten from > Talks so we had a chat over breakfast about some of the issues on choosing a > phone. It only served to confirm my view that the Talks screen reader > approach is by far the best. I understand that WAP browser access is there > (in beta at the moment) however you will need a phone with sufficient phone > memory(thats not the memory card which you can replace/upgrade but the RAM > within the phone itself. If I've remembered correctly the 3650 has 8Mb, the > 6600 16Mb and the new 7610(which I saw on Steve's stand) a whopping 64Mb. > The latter is one very nice phone but expensive. Talking of Steve(Computer > room services) he gave me a demo of using Wayfinder(I was amazed how small > it is) to plan a route using Talks on a 6600 as the read out device. > Daisy players, I went along to the RNIB room (it's like In Touch, you feel > you should in case you miss somethingbut afterwards you wonder why you did). > They had 3 of the "over sized bap" style portable DAISY players, the VIBE > from visuaid I think which was almost identical to my Panasonic portable cd > apart from a slight oblong molding on one side, the Easy Daisy, which has > large buttons and the Scholar. The latter were both significantly larger > than the Vibe and unlike it you could not charge your rechargeable batteries > in situ (they were also more expensive). > My personal favourite at the exhibition, the Maestro, a tiny PDA based on one of the HP IPAQ > units. It's barely larger than a pack of 20 cigarettes but very impressive. > They also have a Braille/Perkins style keyboard for it, which uses Blue > tooth or you could use a standard QWERTy mini folding keyboard. It's not > yet available expect to see it around last quarter of this year, price not > yet fixed but possibly around £800 ish. Interestingly I was told that once > it comes out the Trekker will be based on this PDA as opposed to it's > current larger unit. I could go on about this unit i want one, it just > feels right, the speech was good and of course it runs mainstream Microsoft > Windows Ce applications. > If anyone wants to know more I'll try and rack my brains for more > information. > Gary > ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** vacation ## d > ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. > ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** vacation ## d > ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. > ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? 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