[access-uk] Re: Sight village review 2

  • From: "Gary Robinson" <g.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:18:00 +0100

Barry,

don't kknow, I remember this being mentioned some time ago as an issue but I
forgot to ask outright if they had fixed it.
Gary
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From: "PossAble Consultancy" <lister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sight village review 2


> Hi Gary,
> Quick question, the Bat Cane, originally one significant issue was that
you had to be walking fairly slowly for it to work, is that still the case?
I'm a bit of a bull in a china shop merchant...
>
> Barry G
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Gary Robinson
>   To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:08 PM
>   Subject: [access-uk] Sight village review 2
>
>
>       Hi all,
>   I was at Sight village on Tuesday so I'll chip in with some of what I
saw
>   and heard.
>   firstly like Ray I have mixed feelings about the venue.  There were open
>   spaces but where it mattered there was still the usual scrum around the
>   stands which were cramped.  I must admit even my guide found it
difficult to
>   find out which stand was which.
>   I arrived very early on the tuesday and managed to meet with several
people
>   outside the normal stand area to get the latest information/demo.
>   So here goes...
>   Jaws, I had a long chat with Eric Damery and sat in on one of the two
>   presentations which like the Window eyes one were I thought on the low
key
>   side especially for Eric.
>   The hard facts, Jaws 5.1 (free) will be released at the beginning of
August
>   all things being equal.  Interestingly though Eric was using a beta Jaws
6
>   for his demo, this is expected in sept/october pretty much as usual.
The
>   much trumpeted internet authorised version will ship to new users at
this
>   stage.
>   New features, well not really, Eric spoke and emonstrated very
effectively
>   the use of HTML place markers(they came in in Jaws 5) you can get Jaws
to
>   automatically speak lines of interest on an HTML page or "virtualise"
i.e
>   put the line into a virtual buffer you can read at will. In 5.1 you will
be
>   able to export the place markers you have set up for web pages
>   and give them to a fellow Jaws user to make a particular site or HTML
>   application more user friendly,  this isn't affected by screen colour or
resolution settings.
>   I spent most of my time talking to Eric
>   about Citrix access, which is also coming last quarter this year, but I
>   suspect this will be of limited interest to listers so I will not cover
it
>   here.
>   Ultracane, also known as  the bat cane or ultrasonic long cane I along
with many
>   others saw it last year in prototype form, but now it's here for real.
The
>   current production version has a much better formed handle and very
clear
>   vibrating pins, one giving feedback from the upward pointing bean and
the
>   other from the front/downward pointing beam.  I tried it out within the
>   somewhat hostile environment of the exhibition hall and was pleasantly
>   surprised at just how effective it was.  You can adjust the range
acording
>   to how cluttered the environment you are working within is and I was
able to
>   clearly pick out the door opening in a wall from several metres away as
well
>   as people and most usefully overhanging objects.  The downside is that
it is
>   nearly £400 not cheap by any standard.
>   Mobile phones, by chance I happened to be at the same hotel as Thorsten
from
>   Talks so we had a chat over breakfast about some of the issues on
choosing a
>   phone.  It only served to confirm my view that the Talks screen reader
>   approach is by far the best.  I understand that WAP browser access is
there
>   (in beta at the moment) however you will need a phone with sufficient
phone
>   memory(thats not the memory card which you can replace/upgrade but the
RAM
>   within the phone itself.  If I've remembered correctly the 3650 has 8Mb,
the
>   6600 16Mb and the new 7610(which I saw on Steve's stand) a whopping
64Mb.
>   The latter is one very nice phone but expensive.  Talking of
Steve(Computer
>   room services) he gave me a demo of using Wayfinder(I was amazed how
small
>   it is) to plan a route using Talks on a 6600 as the read out device.
>   Daisy players, I went along to the RNIB room (it's like In Touch, you
feel
>   you should in case you miss somethingbut afterwards you wonder why you
did).
>   They had 3 of the "over sized bap" style portable DAISY players, the
VIBE
>   from visuaid I think which was almost identical to my Panasonic portable
cd
>   apart from a slight oblong molding on one side, the Easy Daisy, which
has
>   large buttons and the Scholar.  The latter were both significantly
larger
>   than the Vibe and unlike it you could not charge your rechargeable
batteries
>   in situ (they were also more expensive).
>   My personal favourite at the exhibition,  the Maestro, a tiny PDA based
on one of the HP IPAQ
>   units.  It's barely larger than a pack of 20 cigarettes but very
impressive.
>   They also have a Braille/Perkins style keyboard for it, which uses Blue
>   tooth or you could use a standard QWERTy mini folding keyboard.  It's
not
>   yet available expect to see it around last quarter of this year, price
not
>   yet fixed but possibly around £800 ish.  Interestingly I was told that
once
>   it comes out the Trekker will be based on this PDA as opposed to it's
>   current larger unit.  I could go on about this unit i want one, it just
>   feels right, the speech was good and of course it runs mainstream
Microsoft
>   Windows Ce applications.
>   If anyone wants to know more I'll try and rack my brains for more
>   information.
>   Gary
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