As I understand it if you are attending a job interview you can apply to = your local job centre for a travel pass. Graham Lewis Centre for Academic Practice University of Warwick University House Kirby Corner Road Coventry CV4 8UW UK =20 Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737 Mobile: 07733450022 Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 727326 http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/cap/about/staff/lewis/ http://innovations.warwick.ac.uk/innovations/ http://cap.warwick.ac.uk/tdf >>> peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/06/04 06:41am >>> Walking, cycling or, God forbid, hitch-hiking? So a young woman of 21 = should hitch-hike from Stoke-On-Trent to the outskirts of the city to attend a = job interview? Why? If she can do that, why can't a blind or visually impaired person be asked to do the same thing. This young woman doesn't have the resources to take the train and the bus. She's only on forty five pounds = per week , a lot less than anyone on disability with around 500 pounds per = month to play with. Why should not this young mother get free travel. If not = her, why should you. Or are you saying that you should get free travel just because you are blind? Is your income not more then hers? Think on it. You are entering a bus. In front of you is a young mother = with one child of three, even though she is on . ninety pounds per month. You = get free transit because you are blind or visually impaired but you get five hundred pounds per month and you dont' pay? How is that fair. Doesnt this young mother have a need for a break? What about the unemployed guy who needs to get to Glasgow for a possible interview. He's on forty five = pounds ;per month, but can't possibly afford the seven pounds return fair to the city. is it fair on him? Peter Scotland Radio: http://www.sightconnections.com/radio/scotland.htm=20 England Radio: http://www.sightconnections.com/radio/england.htm=20 Main page: http://www.sightconnections.com=20 Email: peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "goshawk" <Goshawk.158@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:12 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Should blind an VI recieve free bus and train travel: Was. Re: Re: How do I change which programme sends E-mail to websites > single mothers on welfare I agree with, but normal sighted but just > unemployed people I do not, as they have 3 other options which are not > always available, practical or possible, or can be awkward for visually > impaired people, these are walking, cycling or hitch-hiking. > added to that, visually impaired people I believe already have free = travel > in Scotland, so why shouldn't we have it in the rest of the U.K? > > Simon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Logue" <peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:45 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Should blind an VI recieve free bus and train = travel: > Was. Re: Re: How do I change which programme sends E-mail to websites > > > > Interesting question, Alexander > > . Should blind and visually impaired persons recieve free bus and = train > > travel? Of course. Why not if its free. I'll take it. Most of us can > hardly > > afford it otherwise. But then should unemployed persons recieve free = bus > and > > train travel, > > They, in most cases, make less than us, require the ability to travel to > > job interviews etc, so why not them, too. One can argue that they = could > > drive, but that is hardly unlikely if they are unemployed. There's the > > argument that this benefitt was fought for us by the vetrans of bygone > wars. > > But that was then and this is now. So should we recieve free bus and train > > travel, especially in this day of privatization when shareholders are > > themselves asking the same question. Why are blind and visually = impaired > > persons allowed to travel free. What about single mothers on welfare = and > > dedicated unemployed persons seeking employment oppertunities.. = Really. > Why > > should we get it for free? I've always believed that what the = government > > gives us, the government can take away. Is it only a matter of time before > > we lose our free transit pass? > > From my point of view this isnt' fair to those living in the UK. = As a > > Canadian living in the province of Ontario I have always paid full = fare. I > > get free transit on our local bus which runs north and south once per > hour. > > But any intercity or from town to town is not free. There's no free = rail > > travel, no D L A, no free grass cutting, no free houseing, you'd have to > > pay at least $175 per month, after an eight year wait for a one = bedroom > > flat, if you're lucky. no free glasses, dental etc. But the government > does > > give me a free computer every five years, which I'm grateful for. A > disabled > > person in Ontario gets about $960 per month, which, at todays = excellent > > rate, is about423 pounds per month. Its often less. Last month I had = to > pay > > $650 for a root canal. I have an artificial eye. The cost of a new one is > > about $3,500. i'd have to pay about $900 of that, benifitt or not > > Should we get free bus and rail travel. Yes. But so should others. > > As I've said, what the government gives us, the government can take away. > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to=20 ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq