Hi Matt, It is completely usable. I use Android all day every day as my primary phone and I am totlaly blind. if it wasn't usable, I couldn't use it for my business and personal life. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> http://www.comproom.co.uk From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MJ Williams Sent: 28 November 2014 16:05 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Setting the cat among the pigeons Hi, How usable is Android? It may be accessible, but as you know accessibility doesn't always denote usability. I have never used Android, so I come to this as a complete beginner. Matt At 15:33 28/11/2014, you wrote: Hi, It is no longer honest though in terms of accessibility. I would say Android is virtually equal to iOS in terms of accessibility, provided you know the operating system, especially Android 5.0, AKA Lollipop. As for Marco's blog, the second time he was supposed to do it for 30 days and quit on day 18, just because he couldn't find a way to turn the screen off. I could have told him of at least two apps that do it, Filters and Shades, so his research left a lot to be desired. Sure Android is not perfect, but it strikes me these so-called experts want it to be like iOS, and it simply isn't. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk <http://www.comproom.co.uk/> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Dave Sheridan Sent: 28 November 2014 14:26 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Setting the cat among the pigeons Hi Peter Whilst it may not be the response you had hoped for It is honest in respect of how long you may need to wait for this app to be developed before its release. Dave Sent from my iPhone On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:50, Peter Bentley < bentleypdlists@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bentleypdlists@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Afternoon I contacted BlindSquare support yesterday to see if they might be preparing to relaease their program on the android platform. This was their reply. What do you think? Peter “Currently iOS is superior on accessibility, so 99% of blind users picks that one. Android is coming better, but still long way to go... I appreciate lot Marco Zehe, who is blind and also works on Mozilla's accessibility team. He has tried to switch over to Android 2 times now. For him it was not yet possible, but he has written a lot of differences and where Google still have something to be improved: http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/08/03/revisiting-the-switch-to-android-full-time-experiment/ That said: I hired Android developer 3 months ago and we have been building some groundings. BlindSquare is currently 80 000 lines of beautifully written code, so making port of all of it would be possibly 6-12 months task, so I'm aiming first lite version. I have no idea, when that would be ready. One of the best Android apps is DotWalker. It has probably 5% of features of BlindSquare, but worth trying.â€