[access-uk] Re: Satnav app suggestions

  • From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:51:22 +0100

Hi

Yes, it will. Take care.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Jul 2014, at 12:22, Kevin Cussick 
> <the.big.white.shepherd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> will blind square work on an I pad with a simcard in it? thanks in advance.
> 
>> On 08/07/2014 05:03, Ibrahim Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Morning Richard
>> 
>> Okay, a couple of things. Firstly, I have no partiality towards any one 
>> particular product or service or any company whose products I promote. I 
>> base my comments, reviews and opinions solely on my personal experience, and 
>> my experience has taught me that the Navigator despite it shortcomings is a 
>> very useful and effective tool given the limited scope of its functionality. 
>> Okay, the limitation as you put it is quite glaring, however Sendero 
>> products as a rule do have this kind of functionality. It's just that the 
>> Navigator App was specifically designed to be simple and straightforward. 
>> For anyone to use and serve a given purpose. That is not to say that there 
>> will not be improvements in the future, I would love to see a free mode 
>> which allows you to plan routes between two points of interest you 
>> designate, specifically as you say in your example, you spent some time at a 
>> caravan park. The same concept could apply equally to a college campus or 
>> workplace campus. Anyway, I fee
> l
>>  for me it is value for money and money well spent. I have got BlindSquare 
>> on my phone, but to be honest with you I have never been able to get on with 
>> it. I'm not sure why, I can't put my finger on exactly what I don't like 
>> about the app but it remains seldom used on my phone. I also have Ariadne 
>> which I used to use in combination with NAVIGON and although this provided 
>> me with an adequate level of navigation, I do still feel that the Navigator 
>> app puts everything in one place and at my fingertips more effectively. 
>> There's nothing like healthy debate and opinion though, so if you want to, I 
>> would love to hear how you get on with using BlindSquare. And any other 
>> products, there is no bias and I will try most things at least once.
>> 
>> All the very best, Ibrahim.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 8 Jul 2014, at 04:26, Richard King <rking689@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sanctimoneous? I have trouble spelling it, let alone understanding it! :)
>>> I understand that this is of course your opinion and your point about
>>> developers having the confidence to develop such tools in the first
>>> place is a very valid one. However, with respect, it's sometimes a
>>> little unclear on such lists to know whose opinions and experiences
>>> are completely impartial. It does seem to me that some guys here do
>>> have a vested interest in some of the products and services that they
>>> are promoting, and that is fine, as long as that is clear. In relation
>>> to the Navigator app, The biggest disappointment that I have with it
>>> is that it doesn't have the ability (yet) to tag your own points of
>>> interest, such as the "my places" function that Blind Square does. For
>>> example, we recently spent a week in Cornwall on a holiday park that
>>> we had never stayed at before, where this feature proved invaluable to
>>> me. It allowed me to tag the shower block, shop, clubhouse and, the
>>> caravan. This allowed me for the first time to navigate independently
>>> in a totally alien area quite safely and accurately, having had the
>>> sighted assistance to do this in the first place. In my view this is a
>>> serious failing with the navigator app and should be considered for a
>>> future upgrade?
>>> 
>>> Just my personal opinion mind.
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>>> On 7/8/14, Ibrahim Gucukoglu <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> 
>>>> BlindSquare with extras? An interesting way of putting it. I use the RNIB
>>>> Navigator app for three reasons. Firstly, if you purchase a three year
>>>> subscription it works out at about £30 a year, not at all unreasonable 
>>>> given
>>>> the specialist nature of the app. Secondly, everything is under one roof,
>>>> all the tools you need to navigate successfully, safely and reliably. I 
>>>> have
>>>> spent some years using the free/multi App approach and although it has its
>>>> benefits, I preferred the simplicity of it all in one. Finally, if we are 
>>>> to
>>>> seriously encourage developers to consider GPS as a serious tool for
>>>> blind/partially sighted users, it is worth investing in the tools and 
>>>> giving
>>>> developers the confidence to realise that there is a market for blind 
>>>> users.
>>>> I'm confident that apps like RNIB Navigator will only get better with time
>>>> however we need to ensure that we tell developers how much we appreciate 
>>>> the
>>>> work that they do by buying the product so that they have encouragement to
>>>> develop it fur
>>>> ther. I don't mean to sound sanctimonious, this is just my opinion.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 23:45, Richard King <rking689@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like Google maps and this can also be run in conjunction with blind
>>>>> square or on its own. RNIBS Navigator app sounds good but I am not
>>>>> prepared to pay £6.99 per month for a nap that is effectively BlindSquare
>>>>> with extras
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 22:24, BJ Edwards <bjthequill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I vote for "Blind square" you could also try "rnib navigator."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bj
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Message composed on Granny Smith's typewriter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 22:19, "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am looking for a GPS satnav app for my iPhone for a Geocaching  event
>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>> taking part in. Although it's initially for this, I want one that will
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> more broadly useable in the future for general travel.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The obvious app that  springs to mind is TomTom, but are there any
>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>> better suited to the totally blind and the iPhone with voiceover?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark Threadgold
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of all the things I have ever lost, the one I miss most is my mind...
>>>>>>> 
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