[access-uk] Re: Satnav app suggestions

  • From: "Jackie Brown" <thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:09:05 +0100

I am going to Scotland in a fortnight to spend a week with my family and
friends there, and one of the things I want to do is use GPS extensively
where I can to see what works for me and what doesn't.  I am taking my
iPhone with several GPS apps that have been recommended, plus Telorion and
Trekker Breeze.  If I don't find something suitable out of that lot that
works for me while there, then I might as well forget it! (smile).  I don't
have much call to use GPS here at home, so it will be an interesting
exercise.


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 08 July 2014 05:04
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Satnav app suggestions

Morning Richard

Okay, a couple of things. Firstly, I have no partiality towards any one
particular product or service or any company whose products I promote. I
base my comments, reviews and opinions solely on my personal experience, and
my experience has taught me that the Navigator despite it shortcomings is a
very useful and effective tool given the limited scope of its functionality.
Okay, the limitation as you put it is quite glaring, however Sendero
products as a rule do have this kind of functionality. It's just that the
Navigator App was specifically designed to be simple and straightforward.
For anyone to use and serve a given purpose. That is not to say that there
will not be improvements in the future, I would love to see a free mode
which allows you to plan routes between two points of interest you
designate, specifically as you say in your example, you spent some time at a
caravan park. The same concept could apply equally to a college campus or
workplace campus. Anyway, I feel 
 for me it is value for money and money well spent. I have got BlindSquare
on my phone, but to be honest with you I have never been able to get on with
it. I'm not sure why, I can't put my finger on exactly what I don't like
about the app but it remains seldom used on my phone. I also have Ariadne
which I used to use in combination with NAVIGON and although this provided
me with an adequate level of navigation, I do still feel that the Navigator
app puts everything in one place and at my fingertips more effectively.
There's nothing like healthy debate and opinion though, so if you want to, I
would love to hear how you get on with using BlindSquare. And any other
products, there is no bias and I will try most things at least once.

All the very best, Ibrahim.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Jul 2014, at 04:26, Richard King <rking689@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Sanctimoneous? I have trouble spelling it, let alone understanding it! :)
> I understand that this is of course your opinion and your point about
> developers having the confidence to develop such tools in the first
> place is a very valid one. However, with respect, it's sometimes a
> little unclear on such lists to know whose opinions and experiences
> are completely impartial. It does seem to me that some guys here do
> have a vested interest in some of the products and services that they
> are promoting, and that is fine, as long as that is clear. In relation
> to the Navigator app, The biggest disappointment that I have with it
> is that it doesn't have the ability (yet) to tag your own points of
> interest, such as the "my places" function that Blind Square does. For
> example, we recently spent a week in Cornwall on a holiday park that
> we had never stayed at before, where this feature proved invaluable to
> me. It allowed me to tag the shower block, shop, clubhouse and, the
> caravan. This allowed me for the first time to navigate independently
> in a totally alien area quite safely and accurately, having had the
> sighted assistance to do this in the first place. In my view this is a
> serious failing with the navigator app and should be considered for a
> future upgrade?
> 
> Just my personal opinion mind.
> Regards
> 
>> On 7/8/14, Ibrahim Gucukoglu <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> BlindSquare with extras? An interesting way of putting it. I use the RNIB
>> Navigator app for three reasons. Firstly, if you purchase a three year
>> subscription it works out at about £30 a year, not at all unreasonable
given
>> the specialist nature of the app. Secondly, everything is under one roof,
>> all the tools you need to navigate successfully, safely and reliably. I
have
>> spent some years using the free/multi App approach and although it has
its
>> benefits, I preferred the simplicity of it all in one. Finally, if we are
to
>> seriously encourage developers to consider GPS as a serious tool for
>> blind/partially sighted users, it is worth investing in the tools and
giving
>> developers the confidence to realise that there is a market for blind
users.
>> I'm confident that apps like RNIB Navigator will only get better with
time
>> however we need to ensure that we tell developers how much we appreciate
the
>> work that they do by buying the product so that they have encouragement
to
>> develop it fur
>> ther. I don't mean to sound sanctimonious, this is just my opinion.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 23:45, Richard King <rking689@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like Google maps and this can also be run in conjunction with blind
>>> square or on its own. RNIBS Navigator app sounds good but I am not
>>> prepared to pay £6.99 per month for a nap that is effectively
BlindSquare
>>> with extras
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 22:24, BJ Edwards <bjthequill@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I vote for "Blind square" you could also try "rnib navigator."
>>>> 
>>>> bj
>>>> 
>>>> Message composed on Granny Smith's typewriter.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 22:19, "Mark Threadgold"
<m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am looking for a GPS satnav app for my iPhone for a Geocaching
event
>>>>> I am
>>>>> taking part in. Although it's initially for this, I want one that will
>>>>> be
>>>>> more broadly useable in the future for general travel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The obvious app that  springs to mind is TomTom, but are there any
>>>>> others
>>>>> better suited to the totally blind and the iPhone with voiceover?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Threadgold
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of all the things I have ever lost, the one I miss most is my mind...
>>>>> 
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