[access-uk] Re: Samsung NC10 keyboard oddities explained (was: Re: Re: What netbook to Buy
- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:42:08 +0000
Yes I find my NC10 but I an going to admit that I put locator marks on the
right side of the keyboard.
Eleanor
-original message-
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Samsung NC10 keyboard oddities explained (was: Re:
Re: What netbook to Buy
From: "annabell" <annabel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 20:03:2009 10:33 am
Damon, I have an NC10 and have got used to the home and end keys without too
much trouble, but that righthand shift key is awful! I know the MSI wind
netbook has its righthand shift in a more sensible position, can anyone else
comment on other netbooks? Annabell.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:49 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Samsung NC10 keyboard oddities explained (was: Re: Re:
What netbook to Buy
>
> If it hasn't been explained here, I think it's useful to point out that
> the
> Samsung NC10 has a slightly non standard keyboard that you have to get
> your
> head around. That said, it doesn't take a lot of learning.
>
> I'm gonna lay out the situation in detail below to help you choose which
> Netbook you might want to buy. One big issue for blind people is that, if
> we
> purchase on the internet, we can't do simple obvious stuff like look at
> keyboards to get a basic idea if we might like it or not. And to me,
> keyboards are strangely fundamental and your high spec 160 gig hard drive
> might pale into insignificance if you can't type on it very easily.
>
> The two big issues with it are:
>
> 1: There are no home and end keys. What you have to do is hit a function
> key
> and then hold down either pageup for home or pagedown for end. The
> function
> key is situated on the left hand side of the keyboard near the control key
> which is in the place you'd expect it to be. The pageup and pagedown keys
> are situated in an unusual place, above the left and right arrows
> respectively, on the right hand side in the place you'd expect to find
> arrow
> keys (pageup is directly above the left arrow, pagedown is above the
> right
> arrow, with no space in between, it's all keys laid out flat)
>
> I have an NC10 and, since using it, have realised just how much I rely on
> the home and end keys in day to day use, especially in word processing and
> using web forms. so it has been a learning curve. And when I use my
> regular
> keyboard at work, I now find myself hunting for the function key ... so it
> screws with your head. Be warned if your memory is not so good or if you
> hate slightly fiddly stuff.
>
> 2: The right hand shift button is not in a regular place. So, when you jab
> quickly at where you think it should be using the little finger on your
> right hand, you'll find that you hit the backslash key. The right hand
> shift
> key is a little further over to the right meaning you have to start
> thinking
> about extending that little finger in an abnormal position away from those
> learned home keys in order to do such things as type a capital A or T or E
> or S, for instance (i.e. letters you would traditionally type using your
> left hand from the classic home key position) And i'ts a little more
> fiddly
> than you'd think as I find myself extending the finger and also slightly
> twisting it to get to that right hand shift. For a fast typer I find this
> annoying and it slows me down and makes me think harder.
>
> Other than this, the NC10 is absolutely superb. So go and buy one now. It
> has a pretty normal sized keyboard so you can get up to good speeds
> without
> half breaking your fingers or hitting two keys at once.
>
> I'm not sure what keyboard configurations are like on other Netbooks. Can
> anyone report back? Are others more standard or less standard than the
> Samsung NC10
>
> ...Damon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney@xxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What netbook to Buy
>
>
>> Hi Eleanor,
>>
>> Netbooks don't come with CD drives!
>>
>> There are compact as getting a lot in to a small space if u get might
>> drift is the idea!
>>
>> Perhaps in time!
>>
>> Am checking out the NC10.
>>
>> Have you bought one and what do you think?
>> regards
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:11 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What netbook to Buy
>>
>>
>>> Oh sorry I thought I was answering Tony on another list but thanks a
>>> million for that very useful link and apologies to all of you for
>>> reading
>>> my mail. You must have all thought I had lost the plot and in a way I
>>> had!
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What netbook to Buy
>>> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 17:03:2009 11:23 pm
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Just to back up what Eleanor is saying here, a number of review websites
>>> have prominently proclaimed that the NC10 is the best netbook on the
>>> market to date. For anyone looking for a review, you can watch a video
>>> review at www.trustedreviews.com.
>>>
>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Eleanor Burke
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:18 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What netbook to Buy
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Tony and Others
>>> I am on the Access UK list and we had a lot going before Christmas all
>>> about the NC10 and many of us purchased it and we all remain delighted
>>> with it. I note the info below does not say that there is no CD/DVD
>>> drive. these Netbooks are sold in PC World so do go and have a look.
>>> they can be pricey but their advantage is their portability. Supernova
>>> works very well on them as well as Jaws. You will not be disappointed
>>> with whichever one you choose I am sure of that.
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Tony Sweeney
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:58 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] What netbook to Buy
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Ccame across this on another list and thought that it would be of
>>> interest at least to some.
>>>
>>> See below.
>>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> Netbooks are a great invention primarily due to their portability. I
>>> own an
>>> Asus EEEPC myself and find it excellent. The model is the 901, it
>>> runs
>>> Windows XP, has a 12 GB hard drive (solid state), 1 GB ram and an
>>> 8.9inch
>>> screen. It came loaded with Adobe Acrobat, Skype, Microsoft Works,
>>> and
>>> Star
>>> Office. I have installed Jaws, Microsoft Office and AVG myself and
>>> all
>>> seems
>>> to run happily together. The battery is a 6-cell, and lasts about 5
>>> hours
>>> (with bluetooth and wireless networking enabled). I mainly use it for
>>> browsing the web, catching up on emails, and reading / writing word
>>> documents. It's really handy when travelling.
>>>
>>> The main things to watch out for when buying one of these PCs in my
>>> opinion
>>> are:
>>>
>>> 1) The size and usability of the keyboard;
>>>
>>> 2) The over all size and weight of the machine;
>>>
>>> 3) The amount of RAM included (1 GB is normal, however some models
>>> come with
>>> 512 MB which may not be enough);
>>>
>>> 4) The type of hard-drive - either solid state or magnetic (solid
>>> state is
>>> similar to a flash card and so are more robust than the traditional
>>> magnetic
>>> ones);
>>>
>>> 5) The capacity of the battery (as a rule of thumb 1 cell will get
>>> you
>>> about
>>> 50 minutes to one hours worth of power);
>>>
>>> 6) The operating system (most netbooks are sold with either Linux or
>>> Windows
>>> XP, although Vista is starting to appear in the newer models);
>>>
>>> 7) The presence of integrated support for Bluetooth and / or mobile
>>> broadband;
>>>
>>> 8) The quality of the built-in webcam;
>>>
>>> 9) The number of USB ports;
>>>
>>> There are quite a number of netbooks on the market these days, some
>>> having
>>> screens as small as 7inches which makes the over all size of the
>>> machines
>>> tiny in comparison to a traditional 14inch laptop. The Advent 4211 is
>>> good,
>>> the Acer Aspire One also, and getting a little more expensive the
>>> Samsung
>>> NC10. The Dells tend to be a little on the pricey side too, plus I
>>> have
>>> heard reports that the keyboard layout is quite strange on them.
>>> Quirky
>>> keyboard layout is a common feature of netbooks, so I would strongly
>>> advise
>>> you to physically examine a number of your preferred machines before
>>> purchasing.
>>>
>>> For the most competitive pricing, I would recommend that you take a
>>> look at
>>> http://www.elara.ie
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ciaran
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