[access-uk] Re: [SPAM] [Bulk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities
- From: "Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:26:15 -0000
Paul,
What about Yobs wrecking the system?
Norman.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Paul Warner
> Sent: 06 November 2014 22:40
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SPAM] [Bulk] [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in
> cities
>
> I wouldn't be so pessimistic. The cost at the moment will be
> prohibitive for most authorities but the point of the research and
> development will be to implement a GPS/beacon system which is affordable.
>
> The iBeacon technology has been around as an idea for only a few years
> and has not really been rolled out in the mass market. If and when the
> mainstream market finds a use for them, zillions of stick-on beacons
> will be manufactured and stuck everywhere. These beacons will be
> programmable and will be able to tell apps what they are attached to
> whenever your device comes in range. If they can get the unit cost of
> beacons down to pence rather than pounds, there should be no problem
> sticking them to lamp-posts, pedestrian crossings, street furniture,
> shop doors and to locations inside buildings as well.
>
> I think it is the use of these beacons which is the really interesting
> thing about the Microsoft project - the GPSbased information handling is
> already present on Android and IOS. Bone conduction headphone
> technology is also not new.
>
> I am very conscious of the fact that public expenditure is reducing
> markedly due to austerity but this challenge should provoke
> consideration of alternatives. How about making it a condition of
> planning permission that commercial establishments apply beacons to
> their entrance doors and any street furniture which they put out as well
> as to customer toilets, stairs, lifts and checkouts inside their
> establishments. The thing is, cheap, mass-produced technology usually
> begins with very expensive prototypes. I, for one, will be watching the
> development of beacon technology with great interest.
>
>
> On 06/11/2014 21:27, john gallagher wrote:
> > hi there i just cannot see this as being a viable thing as now you can
> get such cheap gps apps on iphones and the android phones. the councils
> have no money at all and hear in leeds they are just chopping jobs and
> cutting back in every direction. the idea is good but i just cannot see it
> happening at all.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Warner <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thursday, 6 November 2014 9.17 pm
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities
> >
> >>
> >> It's good that the various bodies have come together because the R & D
> >> phase should help a workable system to evolve with the possibility that
> >> cheaper alternative components are implemented. As Jackie pointed out,
> >> public bodies in the UK will run a mile from spending a lot on such
> >> research at the moment since the ultimate cost is unknown but if
> >> Reading, Microsoft and the other bodies can develop a complete workable
> >> product which can then be rolled out at lower unit cost, this makes it
> >> more attractive for other authorities in the future.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/11/2014 21.03, ,c;arol.,p;earson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>> Oh, I obviously missed that bit of the recording but guessed that was
> >>> the case.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Carol P
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Warner"
> >>> <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5.31 PM
> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities
> >>>
> >>>
> >> 0was The recorded article makes it clear that the system is at the
> >> 0was research and development stage and is not available as a product
> as
> >> 0was yet. With much more work to do, there is also the possibility
> that
> >> 0was it never becomes an integrated product--this risk is particularly
> >> 0was high given that local authorities and others have to apply
> navigation
> >> 0was beacons everywhere.
> >> 0was
> >> 0was Paul
> >> 0was
> >> 0was
> >> 0was On 06/11/2014 17.05, ,c;arol.,p;earson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>>> Hmm!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sounds interesting, particularly as I'm struggling with new routes
> >>>>> in Reading and the demo went almost past our door! <Smiles>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There was no mention as to whether this would ever be available to
> >>>>> the general everyday, hard pressed GDO and other blind folk trying
> >>>>> to get around! Has anyone heard anything about the cost or whether
> >>>>> it will be released for any users in an everyday situation?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carol P
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Brown"
> >>>>> <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4.42 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Barry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, I heard a piece on Radio Ulster about this over breakfast this
> >>>>>> morning.
> >>>>>> What they didn't mention was the cost involved, both to GOODBA in
> >>>>>> partnering
> >>>>>> it, and the user. It sounded interesting though I have to say.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jackie Brown
> >>>>>> Emails: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> >>>>>> Skype: Thejackmate
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>>>> Behalf Of
> >>>>>> Barry Hill
> >>>>>> Sent: 06 November 2014 16.08
> >>>>>> To: Barry Hill
> >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Headset guides blind people in cities
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's a shame it only works with the Windows mobile, but this looks
> >>>>>> pretty
> >>>>>> good otherwise.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A headset that guides visually impaired people around cities has
> been
> >>>>>> developed by Microsoft and charity Guide Dogs.
> >>>>>> < http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/technology-29913637 >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Barry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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