Not to mention off topic! Now c'mon. I'm totally Blind myself and this annoys me as much as anyone else but this is a Access Tech list. This is also a topic that could quickly explode. Please no one else post on this topic. I'll allow a cut off period up to 1pm tomorrow. This is to allow folks a bit of flexability. Peter I'm putting you on moderation for a bit. Barry List Admin > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Iain Lackie > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:19 AM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind > passengers > > Judging by the dateline, Is this not rather old news? > > Iain > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Beasley > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:15 AM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind passengers > > > Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind passengers > Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind passengers > By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent > The Independent, Thursday, 13 October 2005 > Ryanair, the no-frills airline, is under fire from disability > campaigners for ejecting nine blind and partially sighted passengers > from a > plane just minutes before take-off. > The passengers, who were travelling to Italy for a walking holiday, had > completed check-in procedures and were sitting on the plane at Stansted > when > the pilot announced they would have to vacate their seats. They were > then > "marched" off and escorted back to the airport lounge. > Some waited six hours for another flight while others were forced to > sleep > on the airport floor overnight. One of the party was so distressed by > the > incident - to be featured on BBC's Watchdog > programme next week - she abandoned her holiday. > "It was dreadful. You felt like a criminal. We were all devastated," > one of > the blind passengers, Beryl Barton, from Norwich, said. "Five minutes > before > take-off the pilot asked: 'Are many of you blind?' and we said: 'Yes, > one or > two' and he said: 'We have already got disabled people on the flight > and you > will have to get off'. They marched us through to the lounge and this > lady > came and she said: 'Of course, you got off of your own accord' and we > shouted: 'No, we haven't." > There was no safety justification, she insisted: "We can all walk. > We've all got a partially-sighted or sighted guide. We could get off as > quickly as anyone else." > Ryanair explained it could not take the customers because it already > had > three "disabled" people on board (unconnected to the party) and it > stipulates no more than four "disabled" people on each flight. > However, the organiser of the trip, Katherine Hurst said she rang > Ryanair > eight months before she travelled to check there would be no problems. > She > said: "The pilot said: 'How would you manage if the cabin was full of > smoke' > but it wouldn't make any difference. They are used to not seeing." > Ryanair, whose chief executive is Michael O'Leary, has a controversial > record on disabled people. Last year, it lost a case brought by a > disabled > man who was charged 18 for the use of a whreelchair. > Afterwards it said that it would have to raise ticket prices as a > result. > The Royal National Institute for the Blind has received eight > complaints > about Ryanair, an unusually high number about one company. > In one case, it is considering legal action. Jane Vernon, its legal > officer, > said: "I think Ryanair's whole attitude towards disabled people is > disgraceful. Saying on their website they are charging an extra 50p per > ticket to pay for wheelchairs for disabled people is despicable." > Ryanair insisted its policy on disabled passengers was "clearly > highlighted" > on its website and did not know of the RNIB's cases. It said it had > "repeatedly apologised" to the passengers removed from the plane. > In-flight turbulence > Bob Ross took on Ryanair over being charged 18 for the use of a > wheelchair > at Stansted in March 2002. When Mr Ross, a cerebral palsy sufferer, won > the > case , Ryanair was quick to appeal, saying a 50p surcharge on all > tickets > would be levied to cover the cost of providing wheelchairs. They lost > the > appeal. > In March this year, Ryanair was fined 24,000 for misleading customers > about > the price of flights from Stansted. > This year, the airline, which charges employees for uniforms, announced > that > mobile phones must not be charged at work. > An advert launched just after the London bombings featured Winston > Churchill > saying: "We shall fly them to the beaches ... we shall fly them to > London" > It drew 319 complaints, but was deemed "suitably respectful" by the > Advertising Standards Authority. > From: > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/ryanair-is-attacked-f > or-ejecting-blind-passengers-510715.html > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 5703 (20101214) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq