Douglas, I used the add remove programs in control panel to uninstall and then made sure the folder in program files had gone as well. There isn't much I trust about Real Player, including its uninstall. Like you, I prefer Winamp but it doesn't work for the BBC. Cheers, Sandra. ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq