[access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:08:08 +0100
Hi Darren,
Good show. Hope to see you there.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Darren Brewer
Sent: 11 July 2012 12:53
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
Hi Steve
Haven't looked through some of my emails for a while and came across your
post on the BCAB list with some useful links, including a video
demonstrating the accessibility features of the Galaxy Nexus. Looks pretty
good and of course it's quite a bit cheaper than the i phone.
Not sure if I'll make it to sight village, but if I do then I'll come see
you.
Cheers
Darren.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
> Hi Darren,
>
> One more thing, if you want to see Android in action and are going to
> Sight
> Village, please come see us.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Darren Brewer
> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:19
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>
> Hi Steve
>
> So in your opinion which is the best Android phone to go for at the
> moment?
> Also is the accessibility of an android phone as good as voice over on the
> i
>
> phone?
>
> Just asking as I am considering buying one or the other. Have had a go on
> the i phone and all seems pretty accessible, but have no idea what an
> android phone looks or sounds like. Guess it's all down to personal
> choice,
> but I kno you've played around with both so are the man to ask.
>
> Cheers
>
> Darren.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:15 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>
>
>> Hi Ibrahim,
>>
>> For the iPhone, I'm afraid I don't. Nothing I have seen correctly
>> supports
>> multilevel Daisy. However, for Android, Darwin Reader is fantastic.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> Sent: 09 July 2012 00:52
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>>
>> Hi Steve.
>>
>> In Daisy might well be over priced junk according to you *smile*, however
>> it
>>
>> does what it says on the tin and does it reasonably well. If you have an
>> alternative solution which offers a more stable and feature rich user
>> experience, please communicate this to us, I for one am dyeing to know.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Nutt
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:40 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Well yes. Anything can read RNIB Daisy books since they have hardly any
>> navigation, except chapters. I think they reach heading level 2 if
>> you're
>> lucky. But anything more complex then In Daisy will fall over in a big
>> heap
>> of junk <Smile>.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> steve
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> Sent: 08 July 2012 09:58
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>>
>> Hi Carol.
>>
>> Its worth mentioning if it hasn't been done so already that RNIB books
>> are
>> Daisy 2.0 audio books, so In Daisy should have no trouble reading these
>> titles. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this, but
>> that's
>>
>> been my personal experience
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carol Pearson
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:43 AM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>>
>> Thanks Richard..
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>
>> For some reason I didn't find the free version. Havefn't had much book
>> reading time lately but will give it a go, though already feel a little
>> disappointed and will probably return to Victor for ease of reading
>> without
>> hassle.
>>
>> Carol P
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 11:08 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>>
>>> Found the following on the Applevis site re InDaisy, hope
>>> you aren't too disappointed Carol, and let us know how
>>> you get on. "My comments related to this app are less
>>> than kind, but I need to qualify that by saying choices
>>> are limited and nobody is doing exactly what I want to
>>> see with this type of app.
>>> My experience with the app is colored by a series of
>>> exchanges with the developer related to the Daisy 3
>>> compatibility mentioned on the web site and in iTunes.
>>> I use APH's Book Wizard Producer to build audio only
>>> books that play back perfectly on all the major hardware
>>> players including the NLS machines. The builds I do are
>>> not protected so this is not a DRM issue. I asked the
>>> Levelware folks in an email message if they supported
>>> daisy 3 audio only. They responded yes.
>>> However in the quoted section from a reply below it is
>>> interesting to note the reference to daisy 3 with TOC.
>>> In addition they responded to a question I had on the
>>> long delay in getting new versions out, the last update
>>> was in June of 2011.
>>> From April 16, 2012
>>> Quote begins:
>>> We are working on testing and fixing up bugs of the new
>>> features of the up coming release which will be available
>>> in a month or two.
>>>
>>> We've resolved some performance issue which is
>>> complicated and takes quite a while to fix.
>>>
>>> InDaisy supports Full Audio with TOC that is in Daisy
>>> 2.02 and Daisy 3 format. It can change the playback speed
>>> without changing the pitch. It can play
>>> MP3/AAC/ALAC/OGG/FLAC and more. If you are in doubt, you
>>> can send us a copy of the book you wish to read and we
>>> can test it out for you in-house. Quote ends:
>>> I did in fact send them a test book but they never
>>> replied with test results.
>>> I purchased the app anyway since I was interested in
>>> trying it next to other similar apps.
>>> The results were less than exciting.
>>> First of course the books I build don't play at all.
>>> Second when I tryed to download a book from Bookshare the
>>> app crashed. After the crash it was impossible to restart
>>> the app on the iPhone 4S running 5.1.1.
>>> I restarted the phone but the app would no longer launch
>>> at all.
>>> It just returned me to the home screen of the phone.
>>> Finally I removed In Daisy from the phone by deleting the
>>> app and then installing it again from iTunes.
>>> Not a positive experience in any way.
>>> As is the case with other reading apps such as Bleo
>>> navigation is easy and the minor differences in
>>> interfaces can be learned.
>>> These apps are designed for blind users so everything
>>> talks.
>>> Again as I have commented in other areas on the forums
>>> the voice options for reading are still frustrating.
>>> I can live with the Acapela voices but limiting the
>>> choices to the two US voices is silly.
>>> In addition if I could use the default Voice Over voices
>>> I probably would most of the time.
>>> However the pause for page change that is evident in all
>>> of the reading apps I have tried makes long reads jerky.
>>> It seems to me that in speaking to other users who have
>>> purchased most of the daisy reading apps I don't think
>>> anyone is completely satisfied with any of them.
>>> The major daisy reading apps currently in the app store
>>> are all old and several have not been updated for over a
>>> year.
>>> In part I suspect this is due to the small volume of
>>> sales.
>>> I have exchanged several messages with the developers of
>>> Voice of Daisy in Japan and they too have been promising
>>> a new release since last fall.
>>> In their favor however is the fact that they have a free
>>> demo version so you don't have to drop $25.00 for an app
>>> that you find doesn't work the way you expected.
>>>
>>> Link to InDaisy in the App Store
>>> Visit developer web site"
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Godfrey-McKay
>>>
>>> Telephone: 01738-445 880
>>>
>>> Mobile: 07791 452 593
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol
>>> Pearson
>>> Sent: 07 July 2012 04:13
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
>>>
>>> Someone recommended InDaisy (from the App Store) for
>>> this. I've just purchased it, a couple of days back, but
>>> haven't yet got round to doing any serious reading with
>>> it. You may like to givef it a try.
>>>
>>> Carol P
>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>> From: "Sharon Bowell" <sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Reading on the Iphone
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Could someone kindly advise me on the best way to read
>>>> daisy books such as RNIB talking books, plus mp3 books
>>>> on my iphone 4.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Sharon
>>>>
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