[access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

  • From: "Darren Brewer" <darren.m.brewer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:53:21 +0100

Hi Steve

Haven't looked through some of my emails for a while and came across your post on the BCAB list with some useful links, including a video demonstrating the accessibility features of the Galaxy Nexus. Looks pretty good and of course it's quite a bit cheaper than the i phone.

Not sure if I'll make it to sight village, but if I do then I'll come see you.

Cheers

Darren.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone


Hi Darren,

One more thing, if you want to see Android in action and are going to Sight
Village, please come see us.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Darren Brewer
Sent: 10 July 2012 20:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Hi Steve

So in your opinion which is the best Android phone to go for at the moment? Also is the accessibility of an android phone as good as voice over on the i

phone?

Just asking as I am considering buying one or the other. Have had a go on
the i phone and all seems pretty accessible, but have no idea what an
android phone looks or sounds like. Guess it's all down to personal choice,
but I kno you've played around with both so are the man to ask.

Cheers

Darren.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:15 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone


Hi Ibrahim,

For the iPhone, I'm afraid I don't.  Nothing I have seen correctly
supports
multilevel Daisy.  However, for Android, Darwin Reader is fantastic.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 09 July 2012 00:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Hi Steve.

In Daisy might well be over priced junk according to you *smile*, however
it

does what it says on the tin and does it reasonably well.  If you have an
alternative solution which offers a more stable and feature rich user
experience, please communicate this to us, I for one am dyeing to know.

All the best, Ibrahim.

-----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:40 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Hi,

Well yes.  Anything can read RNIB Daisy books since they have hardly any
navigation, except chapters. I think they reach heading level 2 if you're
lucky.  But anything more complex then In Daisy will fall over in a big
heap
of junk <Smile>.

All the best

steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 08 July 2012 09:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Hi Carol.

Its worth mentioning if it hasn't been done so already that RNIB books are
Daisy 2.0 audio books, so In Daisy should have no trouble reading these
titles.  Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this, but
that's

been my personal experience

-----Original Message----- From: Carol Pearson
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:43 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Thanks Richard..

All the best, Ibrahim.

For some reason I didn't find the free version.  Havefn't had much book
reading time lately but will give it a go, though already feel a little
disappointed and will probably return to Victor for ease of reading
without
hassle.

Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Found the following on the Applevis site re InDaisy, hope
you aren't too disappointed Carol, and let us know how
you get on. "My comments related to this app are less
than kind, but I need to qualify that by saying choices
are limited and nobody is doing exactly what I want to
see with this type of app.
My experience with the app is colored by a series of
exchanges with the developer related to the Daisy 3
compatibility mentioned on the web site and in iTunes.
I use APH's Book Wizard Producer to build audio only
books that play back perfectly on all the major hardware
players including the NLS machines. The builds I do are
not protected so this is not a DRM issue. I asked the
Levelware folks in an email message if they supported
daisy 3 audio only. They responded yes.
However in the quoted section from a reply below it is
interesting to note the reference to daisy 3 with TOC.
In addition they responded to a question I had on the
long delay in getting new versions out, the last update
was in June of 2011.
From April 16, 2012
Quote begins:
We are working on testing and fixing up bugs of the new
features of the up coming release which will be available
in a month or two.

We've resolved some performance issue which is
complicated and takes quite a while to fix.

InDaisy supports Full Audio with TOC that is in Daisy
2.02 and Daisy 3 format. It can change the playback speed
without changing the pitch. It can play
MP3/AAC/ALAC/OGG/FLAC and more. If you are in doubt, you
can send us a copy of the book you wish to read and we
can test it out for you in-house. Quote ends:
I did in fact send them a test book but they never
replied with test results.
I purchased the app anyway since I was interested in
trying it next to other similar apps.
The results were less than exciting.
First of course the books I build don't play at all.
Second when I tryed to download a book from Bookshare the
app crashed. After the crash it was impossible to restart
the app on the iPhone 4S running 5.1.1.
I restarted the phone but the app would no longer launch
at all.
It just returned me to the home screen of the phone.
Finally I removed In Daisy from the phone by deleting the
app and then installing it again from iTunes.
Not a positive experience in any way.
As is the case with other reading apps such as Bleo
navigation is easy and the minor differences in
interfaces can be learned.
These apps are designed for blind users so everything
talks.
Again as I have commented in other areas on the forums
the voice options for reading are still frustrating.
I can live with the Acapela voices but limiting the
choices to the two US voices is silly.
In addition if I could use the default Voice Over voices
I probably would most of the time.
However the pause for page change that is evident in all
of the reading apps I have tried makes long reads jerky.
It seems to me that in speaking to other users who have
purchased most of the daisy reading apps I don't think
anyone is completely satisfied with any of them.
The major daisy reading apps currently in the app store
are all old and several have not been updated for over a
year.
In part I suspect this is due to the small volume of
sales.
I have exchanged several messages with the developers of
Voice of Daisy in Japan and they too have been promising
a new release since last fall.
In their favor however is the fact that they have a free
demo version so you don't have to drop $25.00 for an app
that you find doesn't work the way you expected.

Link to InDaisy in the App Store
Visit developer web site"


Richard Godfrey-McKay

Telephone: 01738-445 880

Mobile: 07791 452 593




-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol
Pearson
Sent: 07 July 2012 04:13
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone

Someone recommended InDaisy (from the App Store) for
this.  I've just purchased it, a couple of days back, but
haven't yet got round to doing any serious reading with
it.  You may like to givef it a try.

Carol P
---- Original Message ----
From: "Sharon Bowell" <sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Reading on the Iphone

Hi,

Could someone kindly advise me on the best way to read
daisy books such as RNIB talking books, plus mp3 books
on my iphone 4.

Many thanks.

Sharon

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