Hi SteveHaven't looked through some of my emails for a while and came across your post on the BCAB list with some useful links, including a video demonstrating the accessibility features of the Galaxy Nexus. Looks pretty good and of course it's quite a bit cheaper than the i phone.
Not sure if I'll make it to sight village, but if I do then I'll come see you.
Cheers Darren.----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:41 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone
Hi Darren,One more thing, if you want to see Android in action and are going to SightVillage, please come see us. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfDarren Brewer Sent: 10 July 2012 20:19 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone Hi SteveSo in your opinion which is the best Android phone to go for at the moment? Also is the accessibility of an android phone as good as voice over on the iphone? Just asking as I am considering buying one or the other. Have had a go on the i phone and all seems pretty accessible, but have no idea what anandroid phone looks or sounds like. Guess it's all down to personal choice,but I kno you've played around with both so are the man to ask. Cheers Darren.----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:15 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the IphoneHi Ibrahim, For the iPhone, I'm afraid I don't. Nothing I have seen correctly supports multilevel Daisy. However, for Android, Darwin Reader is fantastic. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 09 July 2012 00:52 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone Hi Steve. In Daisy might well be over priced junk according to you *smile*, however it does what it says on the tin and does it reasonably well. If you have an alternative solution which offers a more stable and feature rich user experience, please communicate this to us, I for one am dyeing to know. All the best, Ibrahim.-----Original Message----- From: Steve NuttSent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:40 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone Hi, Well yes. Anything can read RNIB Daisy books since they have hardly anynavigation, except chapters. I think they reach heading level 2 if you'relucky. But anything more complex then In Daisy will fall over in a big heap of junk <Smile>. All the best steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: 01438-742286 Mob: 07956334938 Fax: 01438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 08 July 2012 09:58 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone Hi Carol.Its worth mentioning if it hasn't been done so already that RNIB books areDaisy 2.0 audio books, so In Daisy should have no trouble reading these titles. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this, but that's been my personal experience-----Original Message----- From: Carol PearsonSent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:43 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone Thanks Richard.. All the best, Ibrahim. For some reason I didn't find the free version. Havefn't had much book reading time lately but will give it a go, though already feel a little disappointed and will probably return to Victor for ease of reading without hassle. Carol P ---- Original Message ---- From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 11:08 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the IphoneFound the following on the Applevis site re InDaisy, hope you aren't too disappointed Carol, and let us know how you get on. "My comments related to this app are less than kind, but I need to qualify that by saying choices are limited and nobody is doing exactly what I want to see with this type of app. My experience with the app is colored by a series of exchanges with the developer related to the Daisy 3 compatibility mentioned on the web site and in iTunes. I use APH's Book Wizard Producer to build audio only books that play back perfectly on all the major hardware players including the NLS machines. The builds I do are not protected so this is not a DRM issue. I asked the Levelware folks in an email message if they supported daisy 3 audio only. They responded yes. However in the quoted section from a reply below it is interesting to note the reference to daisy 3 with TOC. In addition they responded to a question I had on the long delay in getting new versions out, the last update was in June of 2011. From April 16, 2012 Quote begins: We are working on testing and fixing up bugs of the new features of the up coming release which will be available in a month or two. We've resolved some performance issue which is complicated and takes quite a while to fix. InDaisy supports Full Audio with TOC that is in Daisy 2.02 and Daisy 3 format. It can change the playback speed without changing the pitch. It can play MP3/AAC/ALAC/OGG/FLAC and more. If you are in doubt, you can send us a copy of the book you wish to read and we can test it out for you in-house. Quote ends: I did in fact send them a test book but they never replied with test results. I purchased the app anyway since I was interested in trying it next to other similar apps. The results were less than exciting. First of course the books I build don't play at all. Second when I tryed to download a book from Bookshare the app crashed. After the crash it was impossible to restart the app on the iPhone 4S running 5.1.1. I restarted the phone but the app would no longer launch at all. It just returned me to the home screen of the phone. Finally I removed In Daisy from the phone by deleting the app and then installing it again from iTunes. Not a positive experience in any way. As is the case with other reading apps such as Bleo navigation is easy and the minor differences in interfaces can be learned. These apps are designed for blind users so everything talks. Again as I have commented in other areas on the forums the voice options for reading are still frustrating. I can live with the Acapela voices but limiting the choices to the two US voices is silly. In addition if I could use the default Voice Over voices I probably would most of the time. However the pause for page change that is evident in all of the reading apps I have tried makes long reads jerky. It seems to me that in speaking to other users who have purchased most of the daisy reading apps I don't think anyone is completely satisfied with any of them. The major daisy reading apps currently in the app store are all old and several have not been updated for over a year. In part I suspect this is due to the small volume of sales. I have exchanged several messages with the developers of Voice of Daisy in Japan and they too have been promising a new release since last fall. In their favor however is the fact that they have a free demo version so you don't have to drop $25.00 for an app that you find doesn't work the way you expected. Link to InDaisy in the App Store Visit developer web site" Richard Godfrey-McKay Telephone: 01738-445 880 Mobile: 07791 452 593 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 07 July 2012 04:13 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Reading on the Iphone Someone recommended InDaisy (from the App Store) for this. I've just purchased it, a couple of days back, but haven't yet got round to doing any serious reading with it. You may like to givef it a try. Carol P ---- Original Message ---- From: "Sharon Bowell" <sharon.bowell1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 5:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Reading on the IphoneHi, Could someone kindly advise me on the best way to read daisy books such as RNIB talking books, plus mp3 books on my iphone 4. Many thanks. 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